[GossipSquirrelJelena]

Originally Posted by Laststandard

You do. Tend to write. In weird short. Sentences.

It does make it a bit painful to read, as this is the internet and we rely on written communication to convey ideas.

Back to the topic..

I could care less about 1/4 mile times, it has no appeal for me. I'm also not surprised that a car with a DCT and 110 extra horsepower traps faster than the ZL1.

I only post this crap from work. So it's fast and dirty. From a smart phone. I'm sure you get the point I'm trying to make. Look at it this way. As long as I keep doing it. you'll be the spelling bee winner of this forum.

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

He is not even worth a reply anymore.

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by joe944

GT500 is going to be much faster than the ZL1, acceleration-wise, stock for stock. I fully expect to get gapped hard if I ever run into one at speed. I'm cool with that, the ZL1 is plenty fast on the street.

Let's not kid ourselves thinking that is all the car is capable of. There are a lot of reasons why a car like this can't hook up on the street, and a lot of those can be dealt with. It's also December.

Still curious to see how the track times play out, since I think that's where we'll see a closer competition between the two platforms.

I see no lies here. Solid post sir. Back to some reality.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by SlitherByU

NO. Cup 2 are the same size as previous R's. Brakes are the same as previous R's. 315 rear and 305 front.

The GT500 steering setup added a little weight to the R but eliminated some of the tramline complaints. Which some feel dumbed the steering down a little. The Technology Packaged changed from 18 to 19 to where the B&O is offered and that is definitely more weight as well.

I was referencing this article from Car & Driver

Ford swapped the GT350R's previous cross-drilled brake rotors for solid rotors because they're more durable on the track and yield double the pad life, according to Ford representatives.



https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...price-changes/

I did misread the information on the tires. That was being compared to the non R car.

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

This is all I wanted to know.

.

You wanted honest answer I gave you one. I think the regular 350 is still a good vehicle and package but the R to me maybe not anymore and that is mostly becuase I have been a straightline guy my whole life, I don't think I would appreciate the extra bits of the R and the performance gain over the regular 350. I wouldn't fault anyone for picking one over the 500 though like you want to.

[RobbyBeefcake87]

Originally Posted by GossipSquirrelJelena

Honestly even Blaq will be able to drive these DCT cars well. I gave him some advice On how to drive his next rental car. Find the Optimum Launch RPM. And type it into launch control. Find the best tire pressure for track conditions. Set pressure. Hold on. Maybe keep a log for different conditions.

We're for the most part in agreement... For a chevy and ford guy anyways lol.

You see the ease of performance accessibility from the European supercars that have dct's and how easy it is for anyone to squeeze out the cars potential with very little racing experience.

It seems the gt500s main weakness at the drag strip might be the delay some described between releasing the foot off the brake and the car actually going when using launch control. They might be a little lazy at the tree stock.

[GossipSquirrelJelena]

Originally Posted by RobbyBeefcake87

We're for the most part in agreement... For a chevy and ford guy anyways lol.

You see the ease of performance accessibility from the European supercars that have dct's and how easy it is for anyone to squeeze out the cars potential with very little racing experience.

It seems the gt500s main weakness at the drag strip might be the delay some described between releasing the foot off the brake and the car actually going when using launch control. They might be a little lazy at the tree stock.

I've been told by the guys that went to Vegas. The car has some tuning hocus pocus. Similar to the Torque management the ZL1 suffers. You boys would probably pick up a 10th or two. Just by tuning that crap out. Don't worry about breaking anything with the A10. Ford helped build it. So I know it's plenty strong!

[SlitherByU]

Originally Posted by shaffe

I was referencing this article from Car & Driver

Ford swapped the GT350R's previous cross-drilled brake rotors for solid rotors because they're more durable on the track and yield double the pad life, according to Ford representatives.



https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...price-changes/

I did misread the information on the tires. That was being compared to the non R car.



You wanted honest answer I gave you one. I think the regular 350 is still a good vehicle and package but the R to me maybe not anymore and that is mostly becuase I have been a straightline guy my whole life, I don't think I would appreciate the extra bits of the R and the performance gain over the regular 350. I wouldn't fault anyone for picking one over the 500 though like you want to.

Ya ok. The rotors are solid for 19 and not drilled as they were previously. My bad. I was thinking brake pads.

[NW-99SS]

Originally Posted by SlitherByU

I do. Mostly canadiens make the list.

I would put frenchies on ignore too, good call!

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by Martinjlm

Not surprised at that. I think MT is gearing up to offer the whole potato on one of their for-fee channels, so this is just a teaser. Sorta like the SS vs PP1 "cowboy racing" H2H that was on their for-fee channel for about a month before being released to the masses. I'm already subscribed to their for-fee channels so I'll be looking for it.

Speaking of “Cowboy Science”.

Check

The GT500 does flex its muscle in its post-quarter-mile performance, hitting 150 mph in 15.1 seconds. That's a massive 3.2 seconds quicker than the ZL1 and 2.8 quicker than the Challenger.

[TRZ06]

HP has surpassed tire technology.

Only so much you can do with RWD.

Honestly, my SS 1LE is plenty fast for me and its mostly usable power, not wasted in tire smoke and lost money.

My next car will be lighter and more nimble, the weight and HP wars are getting out of hand.

Give me a PDK equipped GT4 and I'll be very happy.

[NW-99SS]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

HP has surpassed tire technology.

Only so much you can do with RWD.

Honestly, my SS 1LE is plenty fast for me and its mostly usable power, not wasted in tire smoke and lost money.

My next car will be lighter and more nimble, the weight and HP wars are getting out of hand.

Give me a PDK equipped GT4 and I'll be very happy.

*6 speed manual*

[Nightfall ss1le]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

HP has surpassed tire technology.

Only so much you can do with RWD.

Honestly, my SS 1LE is plenty fast for me and its mostly usable power, not wasted in tire smoke and lost money.

My next car will be lighter and more nimble, the weight and HP wars are getting out of hand.

Give me a PDK equipped GT4 and I'll be very happy.

Yeah but you gotta admit having money go up in tire smoke is fun! Seriously though, there’s no doubt the GT500 will be an animal in a straight line. I’m really curious how it’ll compare as a drivers car for the money. That’s generally where the Mustangs fail IMO. They know how to make serious drivers cars but never seems like the performance matches the price when compared to Chevy’s. I would’ve considered a GT350 if it weren’t for that & in all fairness if you took Chevy out of the equation they’d be great car for the money as well.

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

HP has surpassed tire technology.

Only so much you can do with RWD.

Honestly, my SS 1LE is plenty fast for me and its mostly usable power, not wasted in tire smoke and lost money.

My next car will be lighter and more nimble, the weight and HP wars are getting out of hand.

Give me a PDK equipped GT4 and I'll be very happy.

This is where I am too, especially with how prices of these cars are going way up. I never thought I would see a $100K Mustang or Challenger etc. Granted these cars are capable of 10.XX second 1/4 mile times, which is also insane and surprising in the same vein as price.

All that said, I have always owned pony cars because it was the only real performance I could afford, not because they would be my choice if money was no concern.

These cars are creeping up to Porsche prices, and for the money I too would much rather have a lighter more nimble car with proper balance and usable power.

The thought of paying GT500 and Redeye prices to throw around 4200+ pounds sounds like an awful trade for me personally, but I am not a straight line guy at all.

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by Nightfall ss1le

Yeah but you gotta admit having money go up in tire smoke is fun! Seriously though, there’s no doubt the GT500 will be an animal in a straight line. I’m really curious how it’ll compare as a drivers car for the money. That’s generally where the Mustangs fail IMO. They know how to make serious drivers cars but never seems like the performance matches the price when compared to Chevy’s. I would’ve considered a GT350 if it weren’t for that & in all fairness if you took Chevy out of the equation they’d be great car for the money as well.

Well said!!

The S550 isn't that bad until you compare it to the Alpha. Even then it isn't that bad until you also see the price difference for performance.

The GT350's are awesome cars, just about $10K too expensive I think.