[Firecaptain]

Will C6 / C7 carbon ceramic brakes work on the ZL1?

[Revalot]

I dont know ? But it would be a step backwards, the ceramic is way more expensive to replace were talking thousands of dollars.
That's why the ZL1 is such a bargain, no overheating, iron rotors, and less expensive.
$1300-1500 each.
6-7 K all 4 !

[Firecaptain]

Carbon ceramic discs are designed to last the car's entire lifetime, unlike conventional steel, which need to have their discs replaced every 15,000 to 70,000 miles. They are able to last for such a long time because of silicon carbide's crystalline molecular structure.

Originally Posted by Revalot

I dont know ? But it would be a step backwards, the ceramic is way more expensive to replace were talking thousands of dollars.
That's why the ZL1 is such a bargain, no overheating, iron rotors, and less expensive.
$1300-1500 each.
6-7 K all 4 !

[URBAN LEGEND]

Originally Posted by Revalot

I dont know ? But it would be a step backwards, the ceramic is way more expensive to replace were talking thousands of dollars.
That's why the ZL1 is such a bargain, no overheating, iron rotors, and less expensive.
$1300-1500 each.
6-7 K all 4 !

Unsprung weight is never a step back. I loved the CCBS on my 15 Z/28.

[crosive]

Originally Posted by Firecaptain

Carbon ceramic discs are designed to last the car's entire lifetime, unlike conventional steel, which need to have their discs replaced every 15,000 to 70,000 miles. They are able to last for such a long time because of silicon carbide's crystalline molecular structure.

unless you can't keep them cool, overheating them will destroy them in a matter of track days. sadly, this is an issue some of the z06 guys are facing.

[Stephen12ZL1]

Same diameter & pad shape.

[Revalot]

Originally Posted by crosive

unless you can't keep them cool, overheating them will destroy them in a matter of track days. sadly, this is an issue some of the z06 guys are facing.

Thanks ! But it's your money spend it the way you like it, if they will fit go for it. Somebody help the gentleman, will they swap ?
There made to last the life of the car ! I like that !

[UFDUB]

Here’s your answer:

Go to racingbrakes website and look up their CCB kit for a ZL1. It used a combination of GM and bespoke parts to make the kit. GM parts alone will not simply bolt up, ie you can’t swap over Z28 rotors and have it fit. There are some additional changes required.

There is a good forum discussion about this, search “carbon ceramic brakes G6 ZL1”

[viurniel]

The only change I would make to the racingbrakes kit is forego the stainless lines and get the carbon lines that a member is offering in the forum.

[Russell James]

Originally Posted by Firecaptain

Carbon ceramic discs are designed to last the car's entire lifetime, unlike conventional steel, which need to have their discs replaced every 15,000 to 70,000 miles. They are able to last for such a long time because of silicon carbide's crystalline molecular structure.

In theory CC rotors "might" last longer than iron rotors.

But in reality... vehicles with CC brakes are likely to see extreme use - track days. When in the type of severe use as track days... I'd wager the car lasts a whole lot longer than the CC rotors. The are a consumable just like iron rotors.

I've seen plenty replaced after stacking up the track days. Certainly not lasting the car's lifetime. They have a min weight stamped, hit that and in the trash they go.

[kramard]

Couple things:

1) you can take apart your zl1 hats / rotors and mount to a z/28 CCB in the front. I've seen the rear swapped but I'm not sure how it was done. I don't believe z/28 disc is direct bolt on but you could try first. If i recall correctly the hats are off by a few mil but the disc width / diameter the same. Corvette has a different pattern I believe so I don't believe its a direct swap.

2) on track, I find the stock zl1 1le brakes better then the CCBs in terms of out right stopping power. However, the OE zl1 pads / discs overheat at about the 15 min mark. I can't recall ever cooking my z/28 CCBs and have run sessions of 40min+. I'm threshold braking and leaning the ABS looking for feet in the brake zones for reference.

3) The durability of track day driving leaves much to be desired with respect to the CCBs. Fast drivers can go through a set very quickly if long sessions are common. Pad wear rate and expense also much higher.

Personally, steel is the way to go if track is your focus. If your not tracking your car steel and CCB wear rates really shouldn't be an issue with the nod clearly going to the CCBs. If you are tracking your car regularly budget a significant reserve for pads and discs. For me: pads 3 - 4 days; 2.5 sets to a disc; max 12 days out of a disc. Pad wear rate worsens over the life of the disc and the stopping power drops substantially as the disc gases out.

Feel free to PM w/ questions. Not sure how folks have done the rears though but I've seen the Anderson composites car (I believe) w/ rear CCBs. Might as simple as a rear caliper swap but the z/28 calipers are also monster expensive iirc.

[Torquem]

I'm sure there are instances when a set could last the lifetime of the car, but I have never seen it. All my buddies that run them have just about passed out when they had to replace them. Several sold the brake setup to switch to iron rotors

[Sakudog]

Originally Posted by kramard

Couple things:

1) you can take apart your zl1 hats / rotors and mount to a z/28 CCB in the front. I've seen the rear swapped but I'm not sure how it was done. I don't believe z/28 disc is direct bolt on but you could try first. If i recall correctly the hats are off by a few mil but the disc width / diameter the same. Corvette has a different pattern I believe so I don't believe its a direct swap.

2) on track, I find the stock zl1 1le brakes better then the CCBs in terms of out right stopping power. However, the OE zl1 pads / discs overheat at about the 15 min mark. I can't recall ever cooking my z/28 CCBs and have run sessions of 40min+. I'm threshold braking and leaning the ABS looking for feet in the brake zones for reference.

3) The durability of track day driving leaves much to be desired with respect to the CCBs. Fast drivers can go through a set very quickly if long sessions are common. Pad wear rate and expense also much higher.

Personally, steel is the way to go if track is your focus. If your not tracking your car steel and CCB wear rates really shouldn't be an issue with the nod clearly going to the CCBs. If you are tracking your car regularly budget a significant reserve for pads and discs. For me: pads 3 - 4 days; 2.5 sets to a disc; max 12 days out of a disc. Pad wear rate worsens over the life of the disc and the stopping power drops substantially as the disc gases out.

Feel free to PM w/ questions. Not sure how folks have done the rears though but I've seen the Anderson composites car (I believe) w/ rear CCBs. Might as simple as a rear caliper swap but the z/28 calipers are also monster expensive iirc.

this and adding that I personally would upgrade the AP Racing's 372mm setup before doing CCBs

[s.hammer]

I have looked into this quite a bit, Racing Brake has a couple of options. The kit for fronts and rears utilizes Z/28 calipers, and rotors. For just fronts, they sell a CCB rotor that they have manufactured along with a hat they machine to work with ZL1 stock calipers. It saves about 32 lbs. up front and about 19 lbs. in the rear. Great way to save weight, expensive though. Personal experience, I ran a Z/28 for 3 years, extensive time on track, never overheated the brakes, never had fade, great consistency. Experience with the ZLE irons, they last about half, maybe less than the time of the CCBs for me before I over cook or warp them. I have not heard of anyone trying the Corvette rotors, but I would imagine you would need to swap the calipers and rotors for them to fit. If you give it a try, let us know if it works.