Still die hard ZL1 fan and owner ! The new GT500 impressed - Page 2

ST1LE · 10-31-2019, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BanOne

I wonder if the fit and finish will be any better on the 500, the 350 is not so good.

Of course it wont be better, and its over 4200 pounds. This thing is expensive for what you get when you look at the whole package and not just the magic run by Evans in a pre-production car 6 months ago.

Boo · 10-31-2019, 10:04 AM

Why didnt they put a variant of the 10speed in it? From the reviews ive seen the gearing is a little odd. 7 gears where it tops out at 180 in 5th. So 1st almost gets you to 60 and 2nd runs to 90? It just seems like on a track you could end up in long gear pulls as oppose to the constant sweet spot you find in our fabulous Zs
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TheRealJA105 · 10-31-2019, 01:30 PM

10.6 is a hero pass not it's rated 1/4 mile

minn19 · 10-31-2019, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ST1LE

Of course it wont be better, and its over 4200 pounds. This thing is expensive for what you get when you look at the whole package and not just the magic run by Evans in a pre-production car 6 months ago.

It seemed to me that Ford tried really hard not to release the weight until they absolutely had to. That was/is telling to me. I still can't believe it is that much heavier than a GT350, it's nuts.

jvandy50 · 10-31-2019, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by minn19

Can you imagine paying ADM/north of 100k and all the fitment issues etc...........

lol no, i cannot...they aren't tricking me into that again anytime soon! (buying the ford that is, couldn't do ADM before...but ESPECIALLY not now)

minn19 · 10-31-2019, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jvandy50

lol no, i cannot...they aren't tricking me into that again anytime soon! (buying the ford that is, couldn't do ADM before...but ESPECIALLY not now)

Exactly, although I still love my F-150. But yah, I can't imagine buying another FP car anytime soon, much less one with a huge (or any) ADM.

TRZ06 · 10-31-2019, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BanOne

I wonder if the fit and finish will be any better on the 500, the 350 is not so good.

THIS!!!

Unfortunately, I don't think it will be. The high demand price is all because of the Shelby name, performance figures, and limited run production numbers.

The interior of ANY current performance Mustang does NOT justify its price tag. The Camaro isn't Audi nice, but it sure is a hell of a lot nicer than the Mustang. Way too many cheap plastic trim pieces, and fit/finish issues.

This is very much a niche car catering to a select audience. Especially in CF trim and at around $120K, I would be thinking Porsche GT4, or used GT3, most certainly not any Mustang or Camaro for that matter.

bobby35ny · 10-31-2019, 02:39 PM

I don't see how anyone can cross shop a ZL1 and a GT500 anymore.
The price gap is just that wide now.
Most of us paid 58/59k for our cars, GT500 base plus tech pack brings it to 84k I'm not including ADM etc.
That's a 20k difference!!
Question is do 10's and 760hp worth 20k to you? That's a lot of money to part with.

ST1LE · 10-31-2019, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bobby35ny

I don't see how anyone can cross shop a ZL1 and a GT500 anymore.
The price gap is just that wide now.
Most of us paid 58/59k for our cars, GT500 base plus tech pack brings it to 84k I'm not including ADM etc.
That's a 20k difference!!
Question is do 10's and 760hp worth 20k to you? That's a lot of money to part with.

I just went to the Build site. WOW, when they say Base, they mean it LOL.

unavailablezl1 · 10-31-2019, 02:50 PM

The GT500 has these newest specs and 0-60 times. 0 - 60 is only 3.3 seconds. Barely faster than the ZL1. A lot of money and show for only just a Mustang that is barely faster. Not worth it at all.

https://www.cjponyparts.com/resource...0-shelby-gt500

unavailablezl1 · 10-31-2019, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Checkmate1

ZLE is 3830 lb (6MT). GT500 is 4200 +/- (DCT Only).

For perspective, the AWD M5 with DCT is 4090 lb.

If I go > 4000lb, the 4 Dr M5 gets my vote.

No kidding, here is a clip from M5 article.

"The new 2019 BMW M5 went on sale just a few months ago, and recently, we got our hands on one for testing. Performance figures only tell part of a car's story, but they're relevant today—the 2018 M5 hit 60 mph in 2.8 seconds and ran the quarter-mile in 10.8 seconds."

Artos · 10-31-2019, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Boo

Why didnt they put a variant of the 10speed in it?

I was really surprised they went with an after market as well...only because they poured so much $$$$ into it. Maybe wanted to be different than GM or tried one & had issues?? No manual from launch & only the dct offering was even more of a head scratcher.

unavailablezl1 · 10-31-2019, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Artos

I was really surprised they went with an after market as well...only because they poured so much $$$$ into it. Maybe wanted to be different than GM or tried one & had issues?? No manual from launch & only the dct offering was even more of a head scratcher.

Yes, me too. I thought the whole point of the joint venture was to use it in the next car. Since it was manual only in the 350 the A10 was a lock. But no, there is no understanding Ford sometimes.

Torquem · 10-31-2019, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRealJA105

10.6 is a hero pass not it's rated 1/4 mile

This.
The best the press guys could muster on track was 11.2. And that was one guy. It will be interesting to see what the average joes can beat out of it.

10-31-2019, 02:39 PM	#22
bobby35ny Drives: 18 ZL1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South East, FL Posts: 3,024	I don't see how anyone can cross shop a ZL1 and a GT500 anymore. The price gap is just that wide now. Most of us paid 58/59k for our cars, GT500 base plus tech pack brings it to 84k I'm not including ADM etc. That's a 20k difference!! Question is do 10's and 760hp worth 20k to you? That's a lot of money to part with. __________________ 2017 ZL1 M6 Bog City, 2013 ZL1 M6, 2010 2SS M6 ZL1::J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS

10-31-2019, 02:50 PM	#24
unavailablezl1 Drives: 2019 Silverado Z71 6.2L A10 Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Grapevine Posts: 2,075	The GT500 has these newest specs and 0-60 times. 0 - 60 is only 3.3 seconds. Barely faster than the ZL1. A lot of money and show for only just a Mustang that is barely faster. Not worth it at all. https://www.cjponyparts.com/resource...0-shelby-gt500 __________________ Current ride 2019 Silverado Z71 LTZ 6.2L L87 425hp A10, 4 inch BDS Lift with Fox Factory Race 2.5 Coilovers, Borla Cat back (15HP bump), BFG KM3's 33's. Past Rides 2017 M6 Camaro ZL1 Hyper Blue 2016 M6 GT350 White with blue strips 2014 M6 Mustang GT Premium Track Pack Ruby Red 2012 M6 M3 Melbourne Red Metallic

10-31-2019, 10:04 AM	#16
Boo Drives: 2017 ZL1 A10 Nightfall Grey Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Tampa Posts: 315	Why didnt they put a variant of the 10speed in it? From the reviews ive seen the gearing is a little odd. 7 gears where it tops out at 180 in 5th. So 1st almost gets you to 60 and 2nd runs to 90? It just seems like on a track you could end up in long gear pulls as oppose to the constant sweet spot you find in our fabulous Zs ..

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TheRealJA105 Drives: 2013 C6Z06 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: PA Posts: 1,577	10.6 is a hero pass not it's rated 1/4 mile

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