[KingLT1]

No supercharger kits come with fuel upgrades. They all claim can run stock fueling with 93 on their canned tunes.

Far as fit and finish. Well they both are good imo. On the C7Z kit there was one PCV line that had the wrong quick connect fitting. Other then that pretty good. Whipple finish is much better. The Maggie already had a scratch on snout right out of the box.

https://youtu.be/7-ibiZchido

[laynlo15]

Sounded great. Could you tell what had scratched the snout? Packaging?

[ditchsnake]

Originally Posted by gotswap

Any one of these blowers will far exceed his goals, to gain a touch of power, to get back to sea level power.

So fit and finish on each and ease of install for each, which wins?

I only have experience with the eforce 2650 and I can say it was a perfect fit and finish.

What do these kits do for fueling on the LT1?

I'd like to know that too. Had a local try to sell me a fuel system even just trying to make 540 to 550

[ditchsnake]

Originally Posted by KingLT1

No supercharger kits come with fuel upgrades. They all claim can run stock fueling with 93 on their canned tunes.

Far as fit and finish. Well they both are good imo. On the C7Z kit there was one PCV line that had the wrong quick connect fitting. Other then that pretty good. Whipple finish is much better. The Maggie already had a scratch on snout right out of the box.

https://youtu.be/7-ibiZchido

Nice looking blower though. Whipple look good too. Haven't seen an eforce though. Honestly thank you all for the reply. It really does help. As one guy told me" which ever one I choose " it ll make me smile". I hope I'm the first one that keeps to the "this will be enough". It is a disease. I remember with the cobra. But it makes you smile when you get it. At least until you melt a piston.
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[KingLT1]

Originally Posted by laynlo15

Sounded great. Could you tell what had scratched the snout? Packaging?

Not sure but here is a pic.

[KingLT1]

Originally Posted by ditchsnake

I'd like to know that too. Had a local try to sell me a fuel system even just trying to make 540 to 550

That guy is smart imo. I would recommend full LT4 fuel system even for entry level supercharger system.

[laynlo15]

So I partially agree with King. You won't need the upgraded fuel system if your not going to make over 575 to 600. However if you plan additional mods in the future it will save you money in the long run to do it when you put the blower on the first time. Believe me I've had mine off at least 5 times switching shit out. Its at least 1.5 hours to get it off and couple hours on the replacement of the injectors, pump pipes and then you still have to put the blower back on. So I'm guessing 6 hours if you have to pay someone, maybe a tad more. So, saving 6 to 7 hours at 80 bucks an hour unless you do it yourself will buy some of the Lt4 fuel system.

[laynlo15]

I've not seen a scratch like that one from just packaging so don't know what could have happened. Sorry about that. Ours and the Whipple's do a have a different finish. Whipple is a little smoother for sure. Looks good.

[KingLT1]

I agree it's not needed if you plan on never doing anything else...but let's be honest, OP car was a modded Cobra, chances are he will want to turn it up...especially when he finds out how much more useable the power is on this platform.

[ditchsnake]

Originally Posted by KingLT1

I agree it's not needed if you plan on never doing anything else...but let's be honest, OP car was a modded Cobra, chances are he will want to turn it up...especially when he finds out how much more useable the power is on this platform.

I'm 10 years older since is sold the 04. I remember the disease well. But the car always made me smile. I actually like driving!the camaro. Didn't like the manual on the cobra but love my a8. Guess I shift lousy. Could really never get it to launch. To much rpm and bad wheel hop with et streets. It's really nice with the hud and paddle shifters. Even in auto it shifts so much faster than I ever could. Another 130 ponnies and more torque will make me fall in love again. And hopefully not just for awhile. But I do remember

[laynlo15]

That is a fact these motors are just awesome and even in my LS years they couldn't compete with this motor and took a lot more to make the same hp and mainly its the direct injection being so efficient over the port injection. The LT and the LS are both great platforms but I'd never go back to an LS after have a DI setup.
You'll love the a PD blowers with the A8, its a wicked combination.

[wnta1ss]

Originally Posted by laynlo15

Since its been a while but maybe you forget that my 10.82@129 was on the canned tune when I first put my blower on with a drag pack and my car made 549/550. Doesn't seem underwhelming to me.

Did not say anything about you, I was talking about a regular customer's car that I've seen. He is not a friend of a Magnuson employee, while you were when you ran your 10.855 back then. Quite obvious to me that this customer did not receive exactly the same tune from Magnuson as you did. His was down around 60rwhp from what is expected, which is certainly underwhelming.


Edited to add: went to check if my memory of your ET before you did the water/methanol injection etc was correct, and found something about the tune you were using. You told us that you indeed did get a new tune from Mike and was no longer using the canned tune. Link to that is here (see post #24): https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showt...t=10.85&page=2
So this does support my thought that custom tune gives better performance than canned seems to.

[laynlo15]

Well you are right, I had forgot we did make a PE change and a little timing change as the canned tune was for the stock air box and we were trying to run the Roto-Fab. We were still running on the big pulley and hadn't switched to the 95 or the 90 yet and we were going to add MS 109 after that weekend at the track. Good memory but I'm sure you still have that young mind with a few more brain cells. Ha.

[KingLT1]

The issue is the canned tune is a "Blanket" tune. Some cars may run ok others not so much. I have yet to see a true canned tune car run worth a darn. Last year I was faster then a canned tune P1 procharged A8 car and my only mods were Cat Deletes, Ported IM/TB, Rotofab, flex sensor e85, and Pray base tune.

Imho you would be better off to do these bolt-on's above with a good tune from Brett @ PrayPerformance opposed to spending the money on a Supercharger with a Canned tune.

A canned tune 520-550whp 6th gen doesn't run very strong. mid low 11's with 121-123 traps is what I have seen out of them. Again you can do that with bolt-ons, e85, and a custom tune. I have also seen FI cars pick up 7-8mph trap from one of these canned tunes to a custom tune from a competent gen 5 LTx tuner.

Last time because I don't want to get repetitive...The only way I would suggest going FI on this platform is if you upgrade the fuel system and get a custom tune....otherwise you can go just as fast with a NA bolt-on car. Don't believe me then contact a couple of the Tuners that I have suggested...Rick Clark, Steve Rankings, Brett Stewart...etc.

Honestly if I didn't care about noise and drive-ability, I would of just stayed NA and went with a GPI or Pray Performance Heads/Cam/Intake/Converter setup. mid 10's all day at 134mph pretty much full weight. What I love the most about my current Whipple setup is that it's a total sleeper...not loud, doesn't shake, drives like stock, and run's mid 10's on 20" DR's full weight.