[jjgi5150]

Originally Posted by Rob360

So funny. The main reason that I am browsing this forum again is because I was looking for a GT350 and came to the same conclusion as you.

All those blown motors on the GT350 scared me away. Luckily the car that it scared me towards performs better in pretty much every way.

In my area of SoCal...it's the rep of blown FPC motors....and the STUPID STUPID STUPID $20k and $50k ADM's on the 350 and 350R. If l was gonna spend $120k it would be on a Porsche, not on a "blow me up motored" 350R.


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[BanOne]

Yea did not have much luck talking the dealerships down off their prices so essentially it is the same price as the ZL1. When you couple that with the motor issues and the general bad fit and finish it made it hard to justify $65K. I really loved the Ruby red 2019 with the track pack but I will keep looking. Trying to find a garnet red ZL1 1LE.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by BanOne

Yea did not have much luck talking the dealerships down off their prices so essentially it is the same price as the ZL1. When you couple that with the motor issues and the general bad fit and finish it made it hard to justify $65K. I really loved the Ruby red 2019 with the track pack but I will keep looking. Trying to find a garnet red ZL1 1LE.

My 17 Ruby Red GT350 was gorgeous, but the panel fit, overspray, sagging bumper etc was so bad my detailer swore it was in accident before it was delivered to me. I got it with about 5 miles on it and I even asked my dealer whom I have people there I really trust and they just said it was common with Fords. And they’ve seen many cars delivered to them and others that way.

I loved that car when it worked regardless, but Ford as a company is a mess right now and they need to clean up basic stuff such as panel fit. The fan boy excuses were laughable on M6G when anyone would bring it up. These companies have been building cars for a hundred plus years and there is no excuse except for laziness on the companies part for such subpar quality in today’s market. Especially on your second in line “halo” car.

Like I said though I like my ZL1 1LE much better overall in nearly every regard. Fit finish/ quality or driving wise. It’s only been 600 miles and a few weeks, but I don’t see it changing.

[BanOne]

Originally Posted by minn19

but Ford as a company is a mess right now and they need to clean up basic stuff such as panel fit.

Yea a friend made the comment that he could go spend 20k on a Toyota and all the panels are perfect, spend 60k on a ford and it is a crap shoot what you get. Hopefully I can get the right price on a zl1.

[900RFWN]

Originally Posted by BanOne

Yea did not have much luck talking the dealerships down off their prices so essentially it is the same price as the ZL1. When you couple that with the motor issues and the general bad fit and finish it made it hard to justify $65K. I really loved the Ruby red 2019 with the track pack but I will keep looking. Trying to find a garnet red ZL1 1LE.

Not sure how far you are willing to drive but you might want to give Criswell Chevrolet in Thurmont a try. That’s where I got mine and drove it back to Texas. They have a garnet red right now. It was easy dealing with them, no games.

[BanOne]

Originally Posted by 900RFWN

Not sure how far you are willing to drive but you might want to give Criswell Chevrolet in Thurmont a try. That’s where I got mine and drove it back to Texas. They have a garnet red right now. It was easy dealing with them, no games.

I actually have been watching that one and have talked to them, they didn't want to come off their price, and last time we talked they said it was in process, maybe they wanted me to go away

[LT4Greg]

BanOne, have you checked Hendrick Chevy in Atlanta? They have used Camaros listed. Since you are in Florida it wouldn’t be too long a drive for you!

[900RFWN]

Originally Posted by BanOne

I actually have been watching that one and have talked to them, they didn't want to come off their price, and last time we talked they said it was in process, maybe they wanted me to go away

Asking price wise I think they and Donohoo in Alabama are some of the top ones. Donohoo also seems easy to work with from what I’ve gathered. Stick with it. These end of year sales are right around the corner.

[Checkmate1]

Originally Posted by 900RFWN

Not sure how far you are willing to drive but you might want to give Criswell Chevrolet in Thurmont a try. That’s where I got mine and drove it back to Texas. They have a garnet red right now. It was easy dealing with them, no games.

Funny.

GR 2018 ZLE here and I picked it up March 2nd this year from Criswell/Thurmont.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by most-wanted

Not true. Stop spreading misinformation. There are plenty of mod friendly dealers. Just got to find them. Now if you spray a 500 shot and throw a rod they can and most probably will not cover it. But I have never had any issues with warranty coverage on any of my modded cars. You talking like this makes people think that even if the A/C fails or the radio stops working they're not gonna cover it because it has an intake. smh. Its all common sense. Not too mention the dealer makes money on warranty work. So unless there is something blatantly negligent they shouldn't give you too much trouble as long as its a reputable mod friendly dealer. This conversation always makes me chuckle. I have dealers near me that install blowers on cars and cover them 100%

For the power train though it's pretty much true. GREATLY depends on the dealer but at the end of the day you have to prove it in court. Most aren't willing to take it that far. I have dealership friends that have been on both types of dealers.. that that are mod friendly and those that won't goodwill a repair on a modded car if it could be linked to the broken part in any way. And you can link headers to ANY powertrain issue as an increase in power spec changes what the MM act was written to prevent. Now a header can't be linked to the Radio going bad, or a seat motor failing, etc. Personally I'd be far more worried about killing the powertrain warranty on these cars than I would be about seat motors, HVAC, etc. All of which will be void anyways 2 years and 24k earlier than the powertrain warranty. What's an LT4 cost to replace again?

Let's not forget that the MM act is simply to prevent manufacturers from denying warranty claims on third part OEM equivalent parts. It's not a "well I replaced a stock manifold with a set of performance long tube headers" get out of jail free card. It's there to allow you to replace the stock part with another "OEM" level part. That's it.

Can you fight a MM claim, sure.. it'll just take years and many thousands of dollars. Can you win, maybe. Can you lose? Likely.

[viurniel]

Originally Posted by BanOne

Guys,

I am looking at purchasing a 2018 ZL1 1LE that has a couple mods on it, kooks long tube headers, a V-max TB, and a tune amoung other cosmetic things. It only has 1500 miles on it and it is listed at $60K. My question is do you guys think that the mods have voided the warranty. I have troubles buying moded stuff since it has backfired in the past so I tend to stick with stock unless I do it myself and then I make it such that it can be reversed if needed. I know it is a very vague question but I would appreciate any input.

Thanks

That seems like a very safe list of mods. Why not take it to a competent shop for an inspection?

[SFV1LE]

Seems like you could have a dealer shop check it for a tune, and if it shows no tune or other warranty voiding codes the warranty should be good. $60k for a used 2018 ZL1 1LE is too much, especially modded.

I'm always surprised when people try to sell with mods on, especially easily removable mods. Is it laziness?

Smart buyers will not pay as much for a modded car, for obvious reasons. You get more money removing headers and TB and selling those, then selling the car un-modded. And people wont give you any added value for the mods on the car. Also, buyers lose out on the missing OEM parts if they want to restore to stock.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by SFV1LE

Seems like you could have a dealer shop check it for a tune, and if it shows no tune or other warranty voiding codes the warranty should be good. $60k for a used 2018 ZL1 1LE is too much, especially modded.

I'm always surprised when people try to sell with mods on, especially easily removable mods. Is it laziness?

Smart buyers will not pay as much for a modded car, for obvious reasons. You get more money removing headers and TB and selling those, then selling the car un-modded. And people wont give you any added value for the mods on the car. Also, buyers lose out on the missing OEM parts if they want to restore to stock.

OP mentioned it had a tune, which is the most dangerous part of the mod list depending on the tuner.

As for mods.. I agree. About the only part I'd leave on would be an exhaust since storing the stock one somewhere kinda sucks..

[900RFWN]

Originally Posted by Checkmate1

Funny.

GR 2018 ZLE here and I picked it up March 2nd this year from Criswell/Thurmont.

Came close to getting them the same day. Got mine March the 6th. I jumped all over that 15% off that Chevy offered.