[krw1103]

I wonder how the Nissan plant in Canton MS is doing now, since they are not a union shop? Hummm? Good luck ladies and gentlemen who are union members in getting a resolution. I feel sorry for the families that to worry about mortgage payments, medical bills, and taking care of their children, and helping the communities they live in.
I work in an industry that does not need unions to self regulate the relationships between the employee and employee, and I have medical benefits, vacations, sick pay, OT pay, and the list goes on. Our ability to earn these benefits comes from our own initiative to perform to the best of our God given talents, to help our employers earn a profit. For years we heard that safety is the number one goal in our industry, but I heard one CEO say it wasn't so. It all comes down to total shareholder return. Good luck to all affected by the strike, and I hope it comes to an amenable conclusion soon.

[GM-ACE]

Originally Posted by VinnAY

I do not support Union's of any kind for any reason, all of them may many F's befall upon them. All of them should be summarily terminated with extreme prejudice.

Then be sure to work every national holiday in protest, they are responsible for most of them. Also be sure to ignore all health hazard warnings around the workplace. It's a shame people don't know how bad working conditions were in the past, deadly even, until unions.

[JCunningham]

parts distribution is on strike too so no gm parts.

[GM-ACE]

Originally Posted by 3.8TransAM

People need to go a long way in learning how to stick together.....


As in any career or occupation along with regardless of whether it was union or not, 10% are the jackasses that ruin it for everyone else.


Some people here need to realize that 90% of union guys are hard workers, do their job, go the extra mile and everything else.



It's like all the other arguments here 95% of the people crying about mechanics could not handle doing it for a living, or work on assembly line building your Camaro.


So go take the guys/gals some coffee and doughnuts while they're on strike. It's ok for 5 minutes to not go "Me,me,me me, me!" all the time.

Amen brother. Go spend a few weeks wrenching in 100 degree heat, you start missing a/c pretty damn quick.

[Emoto]

Originally Posted by Captain J

I should have never opened this thread. As a proud union member for over 41 yrs, I'm pissed that so many people wish ill will on someone just because of their union membership. First of all without a union, most employers would not give vacation pay, sick leave, OT pay, holidays off, or the 8 hr work day just to name a few. If you choose to work a non union job, don't be so jealous of the union.

For those that spew hatred and death threats towards union members I have one thing to say. **** YOU!

I don't believe that a single post in this thread has wished ill upon any person who belongs to a union. Did I overlook one? Instead, I believe people have issues with union leadership and their actions. Not the rank and file. After all, the unions, i.e., their corrupt leadership, have made it so you can't even get a job unless you are a union member, which strikes me as completely unfair.

[JCunningham]

ya ****ing unions now i have to sign up for overtime at time and a half to work more than 8 hours a day or more then 5 days a week. I have to make a choice to take my paid vacations or not and i dont have to pay full price for medical. ****ing unions. I wish i was poor and working 3 jobs making $5hr to live in a rat infested whole.

[Ruebernard]

Originally Posted by krw1103

I wonder how the Nissan plant in Canton MS is doing now, since they are not a union shop? Hummm? Good luck ladies and gentlemen who are union members in getting a resolution. I feel sorry for the families that to worry about mortgage payments, medical bills, and taking care of their children, and helping the communities they live in.
I work in an industry that does not need unions to self regulate the relationships between the employee and employee, and I have medical benefits, vacations, sick pay, OT pay, and the list goes on. Our ability to earn these benefits comes from our own initiative to perform to the best of our God given talents, to help our employers earn a profit. For years we heard that safety is the number one goal in our industry, but I heard one CEO say it wasn't so. It all comes down to total shareholder return. Good luck to all affected by the strike, and I hope it comes to an amenable conclusion soon.

Apples to oranges comparison. Nissan is a foreign company doing business here. They chose the south to do business in because of taxation and absence of labor unions. Nissan treats it’s employees as many Japanese companies do which includes health care and other benefits.

Unions were formed here because of corporate American practices. So, what did GM do with the hundreds of millions in tax breaks given to corporate America by mr. trump? Probably didn’t reinvest it in employee benefits.

You’re fortunate that you have all those benefits, but trust me, it wasn’t because of your god given talents. If that were the case, many more Americans would have benefits. It’s the call of the employer on how it chooses to treat it’s front line workers. GM is one of those companies where a union is necessary to make sure people are treated fairly.

The system is screwed up when multi billion dollar companies based here are directing their employees on how to get federal/state assistance to provide basic Heath care and financial assistance.

Flame away!

[Realist]

Originally Posted by Ruebernard

So, what did GM do with the hundreds of millions in tax breaks given to corporate America by mr. trump? Probably didn’t reinvest it in employee benefits.

My #’s my be off some but think GM bought $11billion back of their stock and the workers each received $10k in profit sharing the prior 2 years.

I think paying for some of your health care can be a good thing. It forces many to have skin in the game and make better life choices in eating and exercise. We are a country that is big, as in over weight and unfit. I saw mention of bringing them coffee and donuts but honestly, a large portion of the people in these strike videos and pictures appear to have had too many donuts already.

[Ruebernard]

Originally Posted by Realist

My #’s my be off some but think GM bought $11billion back of their stock and the workers each received $10k in profit sharing the prior 2 years.

I think paying for some of your health care can be a good thing. It forces many to have skin in the game and make better life choices in eating and exercise. We are a country that is big, as in over weight and unfit. I saw mention of bringing them coffee and donuts but honestly, a large portion of the people in these strike videos and pictures appear to have had too many donuts already.

I have to agree on sharing the responsibility of healthcare.

[CamaroSS50]

As of 2018, there are 7.6 Million employees in the private sector that belong to unions. Which represents roughly 5% of the entire private workforce.

How do the other 95% get along?

[Expunge]

My only direct experience with unions was when I was on an I.T. job in NYC back around '99. First I was not allowed to even touch any IT equipment or they would file a grievance. Second they made a 2 day job into a 3 day job and almost a 4 day job. Third they went behind my back after I told them no to a question and they asked someone else who was not informed of situation who said yes and proceeded to do the additional work.

Yeah, you can put me in the 'not a fan of unions' category.

Oh yeah.. and when you go through airports, remember you have unionized security idiots manning the x-ray machines.

[Emoto]

Originally Posted by Expunge

My only direct experience with unions was when I was on an I.T. job in NYC back around '99. First I was not allowed to even touch any IT equipment or they would file a grievance. Second they made a 2 day job into a 3 day job and almost a 4 day job. Third they went behind my back after I told them no to a question and they asked someone else who was not informed of situation who said yes and proceeded to do the additional work.

Yeah, you can put me in the 'not a fan of unions' category.

Oh yeah.. and when you go through airports, remember you have unionized security idiots manning the x-ray machines.

I and another guy were brought in as mechanical consultants to perform some fine/tricky/sensitive assembly work on something an ME we knew had designed that involved powerful hydraulic motors and had to be 100% correct. It was in a union shop. They were not at all friendly (lots of dirty looks and zero conversation) and we had to observe all their break times and so forth. But, the ME didn't trust them to do this work, so we got to do it.

[3.8TransAM]

Originally Posted by Emoto

I and another guy were brought in as mechanical consultants to perform some fine/tricky/sensitive assembly work on something an ME we knew had designed that involved powerful hydraulic motors and had to be 100% correct. It was in a union shop. They were not at all friendly (lots of dirty looks and zero conversation) and we had to observe all their break times and so forth. But, the ME didn't trust them to do this work, so we got to do it.

You'd be amazed if you worked in a refinery and saw all the things we fixed from engineers who told us it would work better like this or that.


Or how many times they say this will work better, yet never bother to ask those who actually do the work(when the last "engineer" did the same thing).

[ZarusSS]

Originally Posted by VinnAY

I do not support Union's of any kind for any reason, all of them may many F's befall upon them. All of them should be summarily terminated with extreme prejudice.

That's a shame. You might get out of your dead end job if you were in one.