[Roid]

Hi everyone,

I've got my Camaro at the new year of 2017 as gift to myself. I didn't have a good budget a the time, so my only option was 2.0T with A8. Yet still loving it. It's a great daily driver and when you need power it has it. Also looks fricking amazing.

Now I have little bit more financial liberty, I've looked at V6 and V8 options with manual transmission. Read quite a few topics in the forum about modding my existing I4, tried manual transmission V6 and V8's via renting.

Actually, let me tell you what I'm looking for after trying V6 and V8.

I'm ok with my current power levels but I want a little bit a better responding transmission and throttle. It doesn't feel as quick and responsive as a manual. I know it never will, but I've had Volvo V60 Polestar, which had quite responsive throttle and A8. Down and up-shifts almost instantly unlike Camaro A8. It takes about half a second to do shifting, meanwhile I rev another 400rpm or so.

I also want little bit louder exhaust. V8 sounds amazing, but I'm daily driving my car. Loud exhaust might be little tiresome for me after a while.





My question to experienced Camaro owners and tuners is; Should I spend money on changing exhausts from Borla or ZZP and get a bigger Throttle Body with maybe a small tune (either piggyback or real tune) ? Or should I look for a valuable V6 with small mods on it already ?

If you were to think I should get a tune. Which one you suggest for someone daily drives, a piggyback like RaceChip (mentioned in forum, I have mixed thought on it) or real tune via ZZP or HPTuners ?




Little bit of more information:
Since my warranty is about to expire, I don't really care about voiding the warranty. I also don't think I'll be tracking my car. I'm not that experienced driver to get on the track. Or at least not in near future.


Thank you very much in advance. Also if this is not a place to start such topic, sorry about it.

[zts1986]

Head over to the 2.0T forums on this site. I'd recommend bolt-ons and a tune. Cheaper than buying a new car, by far, and will out-perform a stock V6. Only think you wont get is the sound that the V6 makes...or the fuel economy.

[95 imp]

I have not driven the 4 popper, but I'm guessing, from your description, it is turbo lag. It takes a second for the power to come on.

If that's the case, you need to spend some money to free up the exhaust and intake flow to make it more responsive. Or a more powerful N/A motor. (V6-V8)

[Roid]

Turbo lag is noticeable sometimes but it's not something you can't get use to. When I was doing my research on the forum, I've seen people are actually complaining about throttle response.

A follow-up question, is this list a good starting list for a beginner like me ? (I'm planning to put these on the car myself.)

1-CAI
2-Turbo blanket
3-Catted Downpipe and upgraded axle-back exhaust
4-Brake upgrades(4pistons at front maybe even 6F-4B)
5-Tune (either piggyback or full ECM)

[cbr1100xx]

advices?

[protovack]

I'm partial to the 2.0T since I have one. I'd say get basic mods and tune for about 40-50 more lb/ft of torque. Downpipe, new intake filter, and a real tune not a racechip. Since your warranty is almost up, there is no need for a piggyback device. Look at Trifecta or ZZP. If you want to keep your current power level, or plus some, I'd stick to the 2.0T. I also really think you'd like a manual. The A8 just isn't a very responsive transmission in any format. If you aren't daily driving in traffic, go manual.

[Roid]

Unfortunately, I'm daily driving my car. It's not a long commute but traffic is quite packed, bumper to bumper. I'd love to have a M6 tho.

[JT58]

I can't blame you on wanting the M6. I had a 2017 Camaro RS V6 with the A8. I am very partial to manuals but thought Id would give the A8 a try when I bought the 2017. I loved the wheel and tire package on the car. I did not like the A8 at all- sluggish shifting and it did not want to rev out. I used the paddle shifters but the MPG seem to drop a lot. Then dreaded shudder happened and the dealership was not good about addressing it, so I end up trading in the car. I got a 2018 Mustang GT and disliked it- it had engine knocking and other problems.

I liked the Gen 6 Camaro so much more, loved my 2017 RS, except for the A8. So I bought my current 2016 LT V6 with M6. I got a deal on it and it had only 6K miles on it. Wow I love the car so much- much more than the 2017 RS and even the Mustang GT. The six has plenty of power for me and will get me in trouble if I am not careful. It's plenty fast and I can rev out the V6 and it seems so much more lively than the A8. And I average 34 MPG with it on regular gas. The only thing is that it did not have the NPP exhaust and the exhaust was way too quiet. The six sounds real good and the huge muffler hides the nice sound. I installed an MBRP axle back and it makes a world of difference. The car now has sound and with the M6 it is so fun to drive. I think the six cylinder is a great power plant in the car- fun to drive and economical too- low price, low insurance and low operating cost. So yes the V6 M6 is awesome to me.

[protovack]

if you are daily driving in bumper to bumper, I'd keep your A8 2.0T and do mods and a tune. Look at Trifecta, they will do a TCM tune as well that will get the A8 feeling much better.
https://www.trifectaperformance.com/...#elProductInfo

The other, more long term strategy, would be to do nothing, enjoy your car as it is for now, and save your money, so that in the future you can have a different daily driver and get a Camaro with a manual before they're gone

[L8Apex]

Originally Posted by cbr1100xx

advices?

V8

[Frank237]

Trade/Sell it and buy an SS V-8 and be done with it.

[Roid]

Originally Posted by protovack

if you are daily driving in bumper to bumper, I'd keep your A8 2.0T and do mods and a tune. Look at Trifecta, they will do a TCM tune as well that will get the A8 feeling much better.
https://www.trifectaperformance.com/...#elProductInfo

The other, more long term strategy, would be to do nothing, save your money, so that in the future you can have a different daily driver and get a Camaro with a manual before they're gone

Yea, I'm really really afraid that manual transmission is going to disappear soon. I truly LOVE them. It's engaging and super fun to row those gears.

Actually this is kinda possible for me right now. I'm working in a place that I have access to automatic transmission cars every day that I can use it for my daily commute. And get a secondary car. Unfortunately, my family has some financial issues in Turkey, trying to help them out a bit. So I'll wait little bit more for it.


Also another question to you guys, V8 manual transmission clutch feels little bit heavy. I drove a Maserati (don't remember which model it was) which had a clutch like V6 Camaro. Is V8 clutch on Camaro heavier than others or was it Maserati doing something to theirs ?

[SteveV]

My Son has a 2008 BMW 328xi with a manual. The clutch in my M6 ZL1 is no stiffer/heavier than my Son's BMW.

[protovack]

I can confirm that the V8 clutch pedal is noticeably heavier than the V6 and 2.0T.