[Sai B.]

I have a 2016 Camaro 2lt with the premium 9 speaker bose system. I added a BOSS Audio R1100MK Car Amplifier and a MTX Audio Terminator Subwoofer. I also replaced the rear side speakers with JBL GTO629 coaxial speakers. The rest of the speakers in the car are actually quite good and I don't think they need replacing. Maybe I'm wrong.
My system currently has 11 speakers:

Center Dash Mid/High Range Speaker
Two Mid/High Range Speaker
Two Woofers in the doors
Two Rear Side Coaxial Speakers (JBL GTO629)
Two Rear Deck Woofers
Two 12in Subwoofers (MTX Audio Terminator Subwoofer)

I want to be able to use a DSP on the entire car. However, I am goind to disconnect the rear deck speakers because I have all the bass I need. I don't know exactly how to do this so I created a rough draft sort of plan. I plan on using a D-6.1200 AudioControl DSP/Amplifier.

It only has 6 outputs which would cover 6 of my 9 speakers (not including the rear deck speakers). It also has two line level outputs which I have a bad plan for. I'm going to use one of the outputs and run it to the amp I currently have which would then go to the subwoofers. And I'm going to run the other one to a separate mono block amplifier which would power the center dash speaker. I have no clue whether this makes any sense or if it will work. Below are the plans drawn out because its hard to follow. But if it does this will allow me to time align and equalize each speaker to my own preference.

So my question is what is the smarter way to do this? If money was no option what components would you buy? Two DSP's? Different DSP? Different Amps? Different Wiring? How would you be able to DSP all 9 speakers? Do I need a LOC?

My plan is all over the place so there must be a better way of doing things. I want to have the best audio system I can have so I am prepared to drop over $1,000 on it. I just need help planning. I'm basically asking someone to help me plan an entire audio system. Any and all help is appreciated.

Plans in a higher quality so you can read the words:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3ihfds9czm...Plans.png?dl=0

[drfeelgood]

Originally Posted by Sai B.

I have a 2016 Camaro 2lt with the premium 9 speaker bose system. I added a BOSS Audio R1100MK Car Amplifier and a MTX Audio Terminator Subwoofer. I also replaced the rear side speakers with JBL GTO629 coaxial speakers. The rest of the speakers in the car are actually quite good and I don't think they need replacing. Maybe I'm wrong.
My system currently has 11 speakers:

Center Dash Mid/High Range Speaker
Two Mid/High Range Speaker
Two Woofers in the doors
Two Rear Side Coaxial Speakers (JBL GTO629)
Two Rear Deck Woofers
Two 12in Subwoofers (MTX Audio Terminator Subwoofer)

I want to be able to use a DSP on the entire car. However, I am goind to disconnect the rear deck speakers because I have all the bass I need. I don't know exactly how to do this so I created a rough draft sort of plan. I plan on using a D-6.1200 AudioControl DSP/Amplifier.

It only has 6 outputs which would cover 6 of my 9 speakers (not including the rear deck speakers). It also has two line level outputs which I have a bad plan for. I'm going to use one of the outputs and run it to the amp I currently have which would then go to the subwoofers. And I'm going to run the other one to a separate mono block amplifier which would power the center dash speaker. I have no clue whether this makes any sense or if it will work. Below are the plans drawn out because its hard to follow. But if it does this will allow me to time align and equalize each speaker to my own preference.

So my question is what is the smarter way to do this? If money was no option what components would you buy? Two DSP's? Different DSP? Different Amps? Different Wiring? How would you be able to DSP all 9 speakers? Do I need a LOC?

My plan is all over the place so there must be a better way of doing things. I want to have the best audio system I can have so I am prepared to drop over $1,000 on it. I just need help planning. I'm basically asking someone to help me plan an entire audio system. Any and all help is appreciated.

Plans in a higher quality so you can read the words:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3ihfds9czm...Plans.png?dl=0

On of the other guys may step in , but your current plans are kind of all over the place.

1st, your drawing is impossible from the start. There is no speaker level output leaving your headunits like in the old days with previous vehicles. This car uses a MOST50 system.

So you need to start with the PACAmpPro4 unit https://catalog.pac-audio.com/catalo...faces/ap4-gm61

This will allow you to run a clean, non EQ'd flat signal.You can either run this to amplifiers, or to you DSP, and then to amplifiers.

2nd, You do not need 9 channels. Even if you decide to run the center channel (which for imaging purposes is unnecessary) you only need 8 channels.

1 for center
2/3 for dash mid range
4/5 for door midbass
6/7 for rear fill
8 for subwoofers

there is no need for nine channels if you are not running the rear deck speakers (which I agree is asinine if you have two subs)
Your choice of DSP depends on your budget, whether you want full digital TOSLink connections from the PAC > DSP > digital amplifiers, and how specific you want to get regarding having a graphic or parametric 32 band EQ for each speaker. IN this case, either a JL clean sweep + twk or Hertz H8 or Audison BitTen/bitone or Rockford 360 would all get you there.

After that, your choice in amplifiers is again up to your budget. Some will tell you to match the amplifier to your speakers (get a 100Watt rms x 4 amplifier if you have speakers that take 100watts RMS). I disagree. you always want more headroom regarding amp wattage in order to drive your speakers at an efficient volume without overheating them . You can control for clipping at the level of the DSP or via gain on the amplfiers

I would also consider 1 or two BATCAPS. I run two Batcap 400's in parallel in my systems. Each one if like a 40 farad capacitor

Now what you may notice in all of this is, it aint cheap to built a nice system. You don't HAVE to spend $15K on an audio system, but I do for mine because my ear requires it at this point (unfortunately)
. But you won't get anything near a great setup for $1000

[red_johnny]

Originally Posted by drfeelgood

On of the other guys may step in , but your current plans are kind of all over the place.

1st, your drawing is impossible from the start. There is no speaker level output leaving your headunits like in the old days with previous vehicles. This car uses a MOST50 system.

So you need to start with the PACAmpPro4 unit https://catalog.pac-audio.com/catalo...faces/ap4-gm61

This will allow you to run a clean, non EQ'd flat signal.You can either run this to amplifiers, or to you DSP, and then to amplifiers.

2nd, You do not need 9 channels. Even if you decide to run the center channel (which for imaging purposes is unnecessary) you only need 8 channels.

1 for center
2/3 for dash mid range
4/5 for door midbass
6/7 for rear fill
8 for subwoofers

there is no need for nine channels if you are not running the rear deck speakers (which I agree is asinine if you have two subs)
Your choice of DSP depends on your budget, whether you want full digital TOSLink connections from the PAC > DSP > digital amplifiers, and how specific you want to get regarding having a graphic or parametric 32 band EQ for each speaker. IN this case, either a JL clean sweep + twk or Hertz H8 or Audison BitTen/bitone or Rockford 360 would all get you there.

After that, your chic in amplifiers is gain up to your budget. Some will tell you to match the amplifier to your speakers (get a 100Watt rms x 4 amplifier if you have speakers that take 100watts RMS). I disagree. you always want more headroom regarding amp wattage in order to drive your speakers at an efficient volume without overheating them . You can control for clipping at the level of the DSP or via gain on the amplfiers

I would also consider 1 or two BATCAPS. I run two Batcap 400's in parallel in my systems. Each one if like a 40 farad capacitor

Now what you may notice in all of this is, it aint cheap to built a nice system. You don't HAVE to spend $15K on an audio system, but I do for mine because my ear requires it at this point (unfortunately)
. BUu you won't get anything near a great setup for $1000

The Dr knows what he is talking about. I agree that you are not going to get away with doing this for under 1K or even near 1K. Personally I am going to add in some subs and an amp. I don't feel the factory bose is enough but I can live with it if I add in some lower bass.

[drfeelgood]

Originally Posted by red_johnny

The Dr knows what he is talking about. I agree that you are not going to get away with doing this for under 1K or even near 1K. Personally I am going to add in some subs and an amp. I don't feel the factory bose is enough but I can live with it if I add in some lower bass.

Johnny, if you decided to go this route, please check my post on sound deadening. Even many pro installers don't understand the principles of sound deadening, and some will load a car down with two layers of dynamat when that is 100% unnecessary.

For you, if you just want to add subbass and an amplifier, I say still add the AmpPro4 as opposed to a ******** module. The clean full range signal you will get from the Pac unit will reproduce those low frequencies perfectly.

Also, a PROPER sound deadening alone is going to bring your Bose system to life by itself!


https://www.sounddeadenershowdown.com/products