Generous Dyno or Pray Performance Magic!? You decide! - Page 2

18ss376 · 02-28-2019, 07:51 PM

No one races dynos, but an e.t. slip is the real answer.

Whocares05050 · 02-28-2019, 08:20 PM

Without a stock baseline the final # is pretty pointless

*Joshinator99* · 02-28-2019, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JonD

Good lord those are high & the shop claims it’s lower than others!?

Marketing at its finest people...

+1

danhr · 02-28-2019, 11:09 PM

37*F with no correction factor and a m6? Yeah probably right.... but you are cheating yourself unless you race in 37* weather

Chef-j · 03-01-2019, 12:13 AM

You are saying its 600 whp on Dynojet? Lol wake up my man. Your tuner should have an explain better for their customers.

PRAY · 03-01-2019, 09:37 AM

STD is still a correction factor but will read 10-12rw higher than SAE. But it isn't UNCORRECTED. I must say I am not a fan of operator input dyno's. But they seem to be very good tuning tools vs the normal DJ. Even if these numbers were UNCORRECTED in that weather they wouldn't be that high on a DJ. UNCORRECTED in that weather with your mods could get you to near or at 500rw but the correction factor should be .95-.96. The most I have ever made FBO on a DJ in 6th through an A8 was like 498rw SAE. The M6 will put down a bit more power than an A8. Like the others said, track mph calculated with weight and DA will tell the real story.

parish8 · 03-04-2019, 07:11 PM

I think you guys are under estimating the cold air. I used a calc and entered 37deg, 20% humidity and 31.006 in/hg(105kpa) and it kicked out a sae correction of .892

525 * .892 = 468hp

edit: I just looked up some weather around that date in that area. 30.3 in/hg and more like 50% humidity along with the 37deg are more realistic numbers. that gives a .919 sae correction.

525 * .919 = 482hp

NickyRacerBoy · 03-08-2019, 09:17 PM

I have MSD ported by pray ZR1 ported by prey custom tsp camshaft on a 112 lobe separation tsp ported heads E85 long tube headers and I made 5:35 on a Mustang

JonD · 03-10-2019, 07:48 AM

Here is that shop on IG defending the latest 535whp simple bolt on TL1

I just want to see the baselines on stock cars before mods

Chef-j · 03-10-2019, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonD

Here is that shop on IG defending the latest 535whp simple bolt on TL1

I just want to see the baselines on stock cars before mods

You can just take it to different shop if you like to know. Just run same gear on dyno.

JonD · 03-10-2019, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chef-j

You can just take it to different shop if you like to know. Just run same gear on dyno.

I’m nowhere near this shop nor would I take it there.

I want these customers to see the difference; nobody has a baseline to compare as no LT1 with basic bolt on’s is making that much power that’s being promoted.

Gains vs. Dyno #’s

CJack2005 · 03-12-2019, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by laynlo15

With a good drag pack the 1/4 mile rarely lies, its never generous and usually is the only true indicator on the big end of the track how much power you make.

There is the truth............ good post.
I can't get to terribly excited over dyno numbers, its a tool nothing more nothing less.

Cerberos · 03-12-2019, 09:58 AM

Wit a stock throttle and a unported msd manifold i got 469whp on 80% humidity and 85F, thru an auto, the stock baseline was 385whp, i would expect around 480whp wit your mods

BradfordCamaro · 03-14-2019, 09:51 PM

Baseline would have been 480HP....

02-28-2019, 11:09 PM	#18
danhr BAMF SS Drives: 2016 Camaro 1SS A8 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Ford City, PA Posts: 3,024	37F with no correction factor and a m6? Yeah probably right.... but you are cheating yourself unless you race in 37 weather __________________ 2016 1SS A8: FBO + Circle D + P1X + Meth + Tuned by Pray Performance Stock Longblock 800 SAE rwhp. 9.4 @ 145 mph.

03-01-2019, 12:13 AM	#19
Chef-j Drives: 2018 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: DFW Posts: 422	You are saying its 600 whp on Dynojet? Lol wake up my man. Your tuner should have an explain better for their customers. __________________ 2018 1SS 6MT: SOLD

03-01-2019, 09:37 AM	#20
PRAY Drives: 2016 2SS Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Sanford NC Posts: 2,766	STD is still a correction factor but will read 10-12rw higher than SAE. But it isn't UNCORRECTED. I must say I am not a fan of operator input dyno's. But they seem to be very good tuning tools vs the normal DJ. Even if these numbers were UNCORRECTED in that weather they wouldn't be that high on a DJ. UNCORRECTED in that weather with your mods could get you to near or at 500rw but the correction factor should be .95-.96. The most I have ever made FBO on a DJ in 6th through an A8 was like 498rw SAE. The M6 will put down a bit more power than an A8. Like the others said, track mph calculated with weight and DA will tell the real story. __________________ 2016 2SS. H/C SBE 1.37 60ft, 6.36@109.49, 9.97@136+. Nuff Said.

03-04-2019, 07:11 PM	#21
parish8 Drives: 17 SS a8 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: omaha Posts: 1,678	I think you guys are under estimating the cold air. I used a calc and entered 37deg, 20% humidity and 31.006 in/hg(105kpa) and it kicked out a sae correction of .892 525 * .892 = 468hp edit: I just looked up some weather around that date in that area. 30.3 in/hg and more like 50% humidity along with the 37deg are more realistic numbers. that gives a .919 sae correction. 525 * .919 = 482hp __________________ dropped a valve in the 6.2. now running a drop in rods and piston 5.3 best et 5.83@121 with the 5.3 http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=465472 Last edited by parish8; 03-04-2019 at 07:24 PM.

03-10-2019, 07:48 AM	#23
JonD Drives: 2018 SS 1LE Join Date: May 2018 Location: Arizona Posts: 292	Here is that shop on IG defending the latest 535whp simple bolt on TL1 I just want to see the baselines on stock cars before mods Attached Images __________________ 🌽 Sauced, 2018 SS 1LE - 123mph @ 5,000 DA ARH 2”x3” FULL System, Pray Ported MSD Intake Manifold, Pray Ported GM 95mm TB, RotoFab CAI, DsX e85 Kit, MightyMouse Catch Can, NicD Tune https://instagram.com/corn_sauced?ut...d=o0ako89uurwl Last edited by JonD; 03-10-2019 at 11:24 AM.

02-28-2019, 07:51 PM	#15
18ss376 Drives: Camaro Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: USA Posts: 520	No one races dynos, but an e.t. slip is the real answer.

02-28-2019, 08:20 PM	#16
Whocares05050 Drives: 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Treasure Coast, FL Posts: 384	Without a stock baseline the final # is pretty pointless

03-08-2019, 09:17 PM	#22
NickyRacerBoy Drives: 1LE Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: East Coast Posts: 1,495	I have MSD ported by pray ZR1 ported by prey custom tsp camshaft on a 112 lobe separation tsp ported heads E85 long tube headers and I made 5:35 on a Mustang

03-12-2019, 09:58 AM	#27
Cerberos Drives: 1976 camaro Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Dominican Republic Posts: 36	Wit a stock throttle and a unported msd manifold i got 469whp on 80% humidity and 85F, thru an auto, the stock baseline was 385whp, i would expect around 480whp wit your mods

03-14-2019, 09:51 PM	#28
BradfordCamaro SABIO Drives: 2016 CAMARO 1SS Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Bradford, ON Posts: 5,014	Baseline would have been 480HP.... __________________

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