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kpmraiders · 01-30-2019, 11:23 AM

I think I have decided on the Magnuson 2300, Kooks headers and RF CAI. Will I need to upgrade the fuel system now or can it wait. Or if I do it now will it be problematic? My local speed shop says I need them now but the just could be trying to upsell me.

ShizzySupra · 01-30-2019, 11:42 AM

Unless you plan on running ethanol/much higher boost you will be fine as is on provided boost pulley and pump gas.

kpmraiders · 01-30-2019, 12:07 PM

If I add it now, would it be a problem? I'm just wondering if I should do be it now so later if I want to add more boost it will be already in.

KingLT1 · 01-30-2019, 12:21 PM

Add it now...why wait and pull the charger back off later? Do the fuel system, pulley down, headers, and tune.

Jhunsberger · 01-30-2019, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KingLT1

Add it now...why wait and pull the charger back off later? Do the fuel system, pulley down, headers, and tune.

Agreed, I did the same thing. Didn't want to have to pull the SC to do the HPFP and injectors.

kpmraiders · 01-30-2019, 12:36 PM

That was my thought process. I will just shop elsewhere for the fuel system upgrade. The want $2061.00 for the works.

Hilltopper · 01-30-2019, 12:36 PM

Agreed with the above statements. You will save money on labor if you do everything at once while they are doing the initial install. Your builder is not trying to upsell you.....he is trying to save you money.

kpmraiders · 01-30-2019, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hilltopper

Agreed with the above statements. You will save money on labor if you do everything at once while they are doing the initial install. Your builder is not trying to upsell you.....he is trying to save you money.

Seems like it. Thanks

laynlo15 · 01-30-2019, 01:45 PM

If you wanna keep it under 600 rwhp your fine. But if you have any indication your going to go past that at some point do it when you install the Heartbeat. I've had mine off about 6 times making changes and its just better to do it once. Lt4 pump and injectors plus the intank pump. Glad you picked the Maggie, you'll love it.

Drsagacity · 01-30-2019, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kpmraiders

I think I have decided on the Magnuson 2300, Kooks headers and RF CAI. Will I need to upgrade the fuel system now or can it wait. Or if I do it now will it be problematic? My local speed shop says I need them now but the just could be trying to upsell me.

It just depends on your power goals. If you are going to run the stock 98mm pulley, you will have 5psi and be around 540whp. If you go with the 95mm pulley, you will be at 7psi and that will be the end of your fuel in the 570whp range. It will be safe at that level with no other changes (don't even need the headers at that level).

Like everyone else has said, if you are going above 600whp, just do the upgrades at the same time.

DorkMissile · 01-30-2019, 10:18 PM

I did the LT4 HPFP and Injector install last week. It is actually a pretty easy install, however my car has a centrifugal S/C, so I still had the factory intake on. About 90 minutes start to finish to do.

I can't tell if your car is a 1LE or standard SS, if it is a 1LE then it is supposed to have the ZL1 / LT4 low side pump in the tank. If not, they are not a lot of money ($200ish) but you are probably looking at 2-3hrs of work just to change that.

The cheapest place for the HPFP when I was looking was RockAuto - $615. LT4 Injectors was actually DSX - $497 with shipping. $70 for both the new fuel lines. Common street pricing on both is around $1300 - $1400, throw in the $200 tank pump and 4-5 hours of labor and you are at $2k installed for the full fuel system upgrades.

Dalton at SkidMark will sell you the HPFP, Injectors, E85 sensor and their auxiliary fuel line / pump kit at around $2300, which can feed 850ish HP, where as the complete LT4 setup is probably about what 750-775.

laynlo15 · 01-31-2019, 06:29 AM

Hey Kevin it was nice to talk to you about your Camaro and choosing a 2300 Heartbeat. I think we know what your going to do now. Have lots of fun and find a good buddy who works at a tire shop. Haha, you have my number if you have any more questions.

kpmraiders · 01-31-2019, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by laynlo15

Hey Kevin it was nice to talk to you about your Camaro and choosing a 2300 Heartbeat. I think we know what your going to do now. Have lots of fun and find a good buddy who works at a tire shop. Haha, you have my number if you have any more questions.

Thanks for the insight. I do appreciate it. You will probably hear from me again.

laynlo15 · 01-31-2019, 02:24 PM

Ain't goin anywhere, but at my age you never know. Haha

01-30-2019, 11:23 AM	#1
kpmraiders Drives: 2018 2SS Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: NC Posts: 15	Time to spend money. I think I have decided on the Magnuson 2300, Kooks headers and RF CAI. Will I need to upgrade the fuel system now or can it wait. Or if I do it now will it be problematic? My local speed shop says I need them now but the just could be trying to upsell me.

01-30-2019, 11:42 AM	#2
ShizzySupra Drives: 16' Camaro 2SS Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Oregon Posts: 381	Unless you plan on running ethanol/much higher boost you will be fine as is on provided boost pulley and pump gas. __________________ @DeathWatchCamaro on Insta 993whp Magnuson 2.3R 9.5 @ 145, Magnuson 2300, Full Weight 2SS, 17’s (810whp)

01-30-2019, 12:21 PM	#4
KingLT1 Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: 46804 Posts: 7,665	Add it now...why wait and pull the charger back off later? Do the fuel system, pulley down, headers, and tune. __________________ 2016 NFG SS A8/Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel

01-30-2019, 12:36 PM	#7
Hilltopper Drives: 2018 Camaro ZL1, 2017 Z06/Z07 Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Burns, TN Posts: 99	Agreed with the above statements. You will save money on labor if you do everything at once while they are doing the initial install. Your builder is not trying to upsell you.....he is trying to save you money. __________________ ___________________________________________ 2018 ZL1, Kong Ported LT4 SC, Kooks 2" Headers and X-Pipe, NW103mm TB, ATI Underdrive Pulley 673/688, 2017 Z06/Z07, Kong Ported LT4 SC, Kooks 2" Headers and X-Pipe, NW103mm TB, IW 18% Underdrive Pulley 640/664, 2019 Mustang GT Perf Pkg. 1

01-30-2019, 12:07 PM	#3
kpmraiders Drives: 2018 2SS Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: NC Posts: 15	If I add it now, would it be a problem? I'm just wondering if I should do be it now so later if I want to add more boost it will be already in.

01-30-2019, 01:45 PM	#9
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,882	If you wanna keep it under 600 rwhp your fine. But if you have any indication your going to go past that at some point do it when you install the Heartbeat. I've had mine off about 6 times making changes and its just better to do it once. Lt4 pump and injectors plus the intank pump. Glad you picked the Maggie, you'll love it.

01-30-2019, 10:18 PM	#11
DorkMissile Drives: DZ Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Alaska Posts: 612	I did the LT4 HPFP and Injector install last week. It is actually a pretty easy install, however my car has a centrifugal S/C, so I still had the factory intake on. About 90 minutes start to finish to do. I can't tell if your car is a 1LE or standard SS, if it is a 1LE then it is supposed to have the ZL1 / LT4 low side pump in the tank. If not, they are not a lot of money ($200ish) but you are probably looking at 2-3hrs of work just to change that. The cheapest place for the HPFP when I was looking was RockAuto - $615. LT4 Injectors was actually DSX - $497 with shipping. $70 for both the new fuel lines. Common street pricing on both is around $1300 - $1400, throw in the $200 tank pump and 4-5 hours of labor and you are at $2k installed for the full fuel system upgrades. Dalton at SkidMark will sell you the HPFP, Injectors, E85 sensor and their auxiliary fuel line / pump kit at around $2300, which can feed 850ish HP, where as the complete LT4 setup is probably about what 750-775.

01-31-2019, 06:29 AM	#12
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,882	Hey Kevin it was nice to talk to you about your Camaro and choosing a 2300 Heartbeat. I think we know what your going to do now. Have lots of fun and find a good buddy who works at a tire shop. Haha, you have my number if you have any more questions.

01-31-2019, 02:24 PM	#14
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,882	Ain't goin anywhere, but at my age you never know. Haha

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