MSD manifold and 95mm Dyno Results - Page 7

ss2fast4u · 11-07-2018, 03:07 PM

Any impressions?

Luckyss · 11-07-2018, 03:46 PM

I know I am waiting too..

6spdhyperblue · 11-08-2018, 06:09 AM

Maybe the 3 jurisdiction theory didn’t pan out

Ventmaster · 11-08-2018, 08:00 AM

LOL- very funny!

Sorry I haven't made it out to the top secret high speed testing grounds yet... the wife was kinda hot under the collar with all the time I spent in the garage this weekend! And then there's work to attend to...

The car is running great- no CEL's, no bells. Throttle response is sharp and its running smoothly. No discernible loss in low RPM response- even at just 1500 RPM cruising in 4th, a dab on the gas and she'll jump to that open spot in traffic. IOW, still a torque monster.

I figured it wouldn't hurt to give the ECM a few miles to figure this change out, and a trip to the "open road" is forthcoming.

ss2fast4u · 11-10-2018, 07:57 AM

Any updated impressions?

Ventmaster · 11-10-2018, 10:57 AM

My wife really holds a grudge! Haven't been able to get outta town yet to really open it up.

But I've driven in traffic enuff to say for sure there is no "seat of the pants" loss in bottom end response. Cold start up seems a bit more emphatic (just as loud- thank goodness for Stealth mode in the morning) and the Rev Match option seems more "eager" too (God- I love it!)

I have goosed it up a little going to work (1st to 2nd gear) and it is pulling hard and running smooth but I go in at 5am- which is good cause there's no traffic, but its also bad because its very quiet and I don't want to attract too much attention. I've used up more than my fair share of "warnings" for a life time since I got this car. But its as if the police like the car so much they can't bring themselves to give me a ticket!

Luckyss · 11-11-2018, 03:25 PM

Just going to have us on the end of the seat waiting ?? LMAO . Finger nails are all bitten off. And starting on the skin now hahaha

Ventmaster · 11-12-2018, 06:00 PM

OK, OK... stop with the bad habits Lucky!

A fellow C6 member is buying my OE mani and I'm pretty sure there is gonna be a long detour to the UPS Store.

I've got the day off on Weds.

oldman · 11-12-2018, 09:00 PM

I drove a while with: CA front cat deletes, msd, 103mm TB, and stock box, stock box cut, stock box cut with green filter, Mishimoto CAI, CAI CAI, stock tune except I turned off the rear 02. IMO, the only workable combo was stock box cut with green filter... The CAI CAI and the Misihimoto, don't work and can't read the air flow thru the MAF correctly. Never got a RotoFab and ended up tuning it with a new style MAF housing Mishimoto.

Ventmaster · 11-12-2018, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldman

I drove a while with: CA front cat deletes, msd, 103mm TB, and stock box, stock box cut, stock box cut with green filter, Mishimoto CAI, CAI CAI, stock tune except I turned off the rear 02. IMO, the only workable combo was stock box cut with green filter... The CAI CAI and the Misihimoto, don't work and can't read the air flow thru the MAF correctly. Never got a RotoFab and ended up tuning it with a new style MAF housing Mishimoto.

I've got the 2nd cat delete Borla X-pipe with the primary cat still in place. GM's cai (correctly installed) with their factory reflash and the NPP exhaust. There is also Mishimoto's catch can but no cai of their's.

I've now added the MSD 2700 and the 95mm TB. What are you telling me wise one?

RobbyBeefcake87 · 11-16-2018, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ventmaster

I've got the 2nd cat delete Borla X-pipe with the primary cat still in place. GM's cai (correctly installed) with their factory reflash and the NPP exhaust. There is also Mishimoto's catch can but no cai of their's.

I've now added the MSD 2700 and the 95mm TB. What are you telling me wise one?

Would I be correct in assuming when you go with the 95mm or ported stock TB the gm cai TB adapter plate is no longer usable? Or needed?

Ventmaster · 11-16-2018, 10:28 AM

No plate needed for the 95mm- it would just restrict the flow you just paid for.

I bolted the 95 directly to the MSD with just a gasket in between.

oldman · 11-16-2018, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ventmaster

I've got the 2nd cat delete Borla X-pipe with the primary cat still in place. GM's cai (correctly installed) with their factory reflash and the NPP exhaust. There is also Mishimoto's catch can but no cai of their's.

I've now added the MSD 2700 and the 95mm TB. What are you telling me wise one?

CAI CAI (pre reflash) or Mishimoto CAI (both styles) did not yield power or the power curve was hinky with stock tune. Cut factory box with green filter worked great...no issues at all and noticeable power. And please dyno racers, the MSD wtih 103mm TB adds noticeable power with stock tune.

RobbyBeefcake87 · 11-16-2018, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldman

CAI CAI (pre reflash) or Mishimoto CAI (both styles) did not yield power or the power curve was hinky with stock tune. Cut factory box with green filter worked great...no issues at all and noticeable power. And please dyno racers, the MSD wtih 103mm TB adds noticeable power with stock tune.

Any data on the 95mm tb and msd combined with a flashed/recalibrated gm cai?

11-07-2018, 03:46 PM	#86
Luckyss Drives: 2010 camaro 2ss Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Saginaw Posts: 25	I know I am waiting too.. __________________ There is no replacement for displacement !

11-08-2018, 06:09 AM	#87
6spdhyperblue Drives: 2SS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: US Posts: 3,794	Maybe the 3 jurisdiction theory didn’t pan out __________________

11-08-2018, 08:00 AM	#88
Ventmaster Drives: 2017 1SS 6spd Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Utah Posts: 3,041	LOL- very funny! Sorry I haven't made it out to the top secret high speed testing grounds yet... the wife was kinda hot under the collar with all the time I spent in the garage this weekend! And then there's work to attend to... The car is running great- no CEL's, no bells. Throttle response is sharp and its running smoothly. No discernible loss in low RPM response- even at just 1500 RPM cruising in 4th, a dab on the gas and she'll jump to that open spot in traffic. IOW, still a torque monster. I figured it wouldn't hurt to give the ECM a few miles to figure this change out, and a trip to the "open road" is forthcoming. Last edited by Ventmaster; 11-08-2018 at 08:57 AM.

11-11-2018, 03:25 PM	#91
Luckyss Drives: 2010 camaro 2ss Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Saginaw Posts: 25	Just going to have us on the end of the seat waiting ?? LMAO . Finger nails are all bitten off. And starting on the skin now hahaha __________________ There is no replacement for displacement !

11-12-2018, 09:00 PM	#93
oldman Drives: SS 6 speed of course Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Hilo, HI Posts: 4,346	I drove a while with: CA front cat deletes, msd, 103mm TB, and stock box, stock box cut, stock box cut with green filter, Mishimoto CAI, CAI CAI, stock tune except I turned off the rear 02. IMO, the only workable combo was stock box cut with green filter... The CAI CAI and the Misihimoto, don't work and can't read the air flow thru the MAF correctly. Never got a RotoFab and ended up tuning it with a new style MAF housing Mishimoto. __________________ Forged short block, large duration sub .600 lift Cam Motion cam, 7200 RPM fuel cut, Pray Ported Heads, 3.85 pulley D1X, stage II intercooler, DSX secondary low side, DSX E85 sensor, Lingenfelter big bore 2.0 pump, ported front cats, 60608 Borla, LT4 injectors, ZL1 1LE driveshaft and Katech ported TB, ported MSD intake, BTR valvetrain, ARP studs, ProFlow valves, PS4 tires.

11-07-2018, 03:07 PM	#85
ss2fast4u 2018 Camaro 1ss M6 Drives: 2018 Camaro 1SS M6/ LT4 SC Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Connecticut Posts: 92	Any impressions?

11-10-2018, 07:57 AM	#89
ss2fast4u 2018 Camaro 1ss M6 Drives: 2018 Camaro 1SS M6/ LT4 SC Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Connecticut Posts: 92	Any updated impressions?

11-10-2018, 10:57 AM	#90
Ventmaster Drives: 2017 1SS 6spd Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Utah Posts: 3,041	My wife really holds a grudge! Haven't been able to get outta town yet to really open it up. But I've driven in traffic enuff to say for sure there is no "seat of the pants" loss in bottom end response. Cold start up seems a bit more emphatic (just as loud- thank goodness for Stealth mode in the morning) and the Rev Match option seems more "eager" too (God- I love it!) I have goosed it up a little going to work (1st to 2nd gear) and it is pulling hard and running smooth but I go in at 5am- which is good cause there's no traffic, but its also bad because its very quiet and I don't want to attract too much attention. I've used up more than my fair share of "warnings" for a life time since I got this car. But its as if the police like the car so much they can't bring themselves to give me a ticket!

11-12-2018, 06:00 PM	#92
Ventmaster Drives: 2017 1SS 6spd Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Utah Posts: 3,041	OK, OK... stop with the bad habits Lucky! A fellow C6 member is buying my OE mani and I'm pretty sure there is gonna be a long detour to the UPS Store. I've got the day off on Weds.

11-16-2018, 10:28 AM	#96
Ventmaster Drives: 2017 1SS 6spd Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Utah Posts: 3,041	No plate needed for the 95mm- it would just restrict the flow you just paid for. I bolted the 95 directly to the MSD with just a gasket in between.

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