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Old 10-22-2018, 11:21 AM   #15
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A little legal road test point to ponder:

You will fail any road test (in my jurisdiction) if you fail to downshift to a stop through each gear in proper sequence in a vehicle with a manual transmission (super fun on 13+ speed transmission ).
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Old 10-22-2018, 11:42 AM   #16
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A little legal road test point to ponder:

You will fail any road test (in my jurisdiction) if you fail to downshift to a stop through each gear in proper sequence in a vehicle with a manual transmission (super fun on 13+ speed transmission ).
The most surprising thing about that is any jurisdiction in this day and age bothering to care about whether you know how to work a manual transmission at all (at least when it comes to personal vehicles - commercial tests are a wee bit different, no doubt).
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Old 10-22-2018, 02:18 PM   #17
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The most surprising thing about that is any jurisdiction in this day and age bothering to care about whether you know how to work a manual transmission at all (at least when it comes to personal vehicles - commercial tests are a wee bit different, no doubt).
Lol - true, but if you happen to bring a manual vehicle to your road test, that is the requirement. I think most, if not 99.99% of people avoid a manual for the road test because of this.
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Old 10-22-2018, 02:39 PM   #18
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Old 10-22-2018, 03:02 PM   #19
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A little legal road test point to ponder:

You will fail any road test (in my jurisdiction) if you fail to downshift to a stop through each gear in proper sequence in a vehicle with a manual transmission (super fun on 13+ speed transmission ).
The DMV in the US does not require you speak or read english or are even a legal citizen to issue a license in many states....do you really think they give a crap about the proper downshifting procedure...
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Old 10-22-2018, 03:10 PM   #20
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The DMV in the US does not require you speak or read english or are even a legal citizen to issue a license in many states....do you really think they give a crap about the proper downshifting procedure...
Bigger question in Canada is... Which hand do I hold my doobie in while downshifting, steering or shifting?
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Old 10-22-2018, 03:24 PM   #21
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Bigger question in Canada is... Which hand do I hold my doobie in while downshifting, steering or shifting?
Doobie in the right, timmy hos in the left, steering with the left knee, shift with right elbow.

I thought that was obvious?
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Old 10-22-2018, 03:25 PM   #22
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A little legal road test point to ponder:

You will fail any road test (in my jurisdiction) if you fail to downshift to a stop through each gear in proper sequence in a vehicle with a manual transmission (super fun on 13+ speed transmission ).
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13 forward gear ratios.

Best to shift not using the clutch.
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Old 10-22-2018, 03:33 PM   #23
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Bigger question in Canada is... Which hand do I hold my doobie in while downshifting, steering or shifting?
Left, always left

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The DMV in the US does not require you speak or read english or are even a legal citizen to issue a license in many states....do you really think they give a crap about the proper downshifting procedure...
Our road-testers are like Hitler's SS...only power they have and they like to use it to the full extent I guess?

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Doobie in the right, timmy hos in the left, steering with the left knee, shift with right elbow.

I thought that was obvious?
LOL - nicely done, but I thought they were left-handed cigs?

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RTO 9513

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Twin Screw
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950 pound feet of torque
13 forward gear ratios.

Best to shift not using the clutch.
It depends on what your first up and down shift are. You can upshift clutchless and downshift with a double, single, or no clutch action at all for your road test...the trick is, once you have made your first up and first down shift, all other up and down shift must remain the same. Again, that's for Canadian professional class licenses
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Old 10-22-2018, 03:35 PM   #24
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The DMV in the US does not require you speak or read english or are even a legal citizen to issue a license in many states....do you really think they give a crap about the proper downshifting procedure...
Sad but true.
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Old 10-25-2018, 02:10 PM   #25
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Bigger question in Canada is... Which hand do I hold my doobie in while downshifting, steering or shifting?
All jokes aside, smoking dope and driving has the same penalty as drinking and driving.
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Old 10-25-2018, 08:44 PM   #26
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Don't think so. There are several members here who leave it on all the time. And yes, you need to activate it with every start. There is no default to "on."



Not sure what you mean by "don't have to engage second, just go into it." Does that mean shifting into second without using the clutch?


At any rate, you can continue to slow the car by downshifting and enjoy the sounds. I personally would never do this on a regular basis because: 1) downshifting only uses 2 wheels to slow the car, whereas brakes use 4 wheels; and, 2) downshifting like this will save the brakes at the expense of prematurely wearing the clutch. This is the fundamental reason not to downshift: brakes are much cheaper to replace than a clutch.


I have traded my last four manual cars all with over 150,000 miles on their original clutches. My wife's father taught her to downshift, and years ago we traded her Sentra at 90,000 because the clutch was shot. I subsequently broke her of the downshift habit.
Understand but downshifting he SS with the NPP in Track and rev match is so much fun, the hell with the clutch. (Can't believe how much better the computer can rev match than me, and I have been driving manuals for 52 years).

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Old 10-26-2018, 01:27 AM   #27
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I do not dispute that rev match will minimize clutch slip for any up- or downshift.
The OP mentioned downshifting to slow for every stoplight. I think downshifting has its place, but should not be the primary means to slow the car in everyday driving. Some people just get over-excited by the concept of downshifting.
Maybe I'm confused, but it sounds like you're confusing engine braking with clutch wear.
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Old 10-26-2018, 07:36 PM   #28
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