[RealG]

A base V8 is what many many people have been screaming they wanted for years, and the haters have been hating that idea just as long lol. Of course this base V8 in 2020 will be a huge sales success and then the haters will have nothing to say except start hating the 2021 update. Haters always say they’re going to keep their car forever the one they got now , not the new ugly one but they never do. Never.

[KingLT1]

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

Or basically a 1SS.

And they're not putting a 455 HP Car on the same 18" Wheels as the 1LT's have, wouldn't be a good idea.

a 1SS is still equipped fairly well.

Why wouldn't they? Ford offers their base GT with a 18x8 on a 235 tire. Dodge does the same thing. I'm not saying I would do it, but if they are going to get the price of the car down then that is the kind of they will have to do.

You would be surprised how many would by a Stripper 6gen with a V8 at a lower price point. Not everybody wants 30 different ambient light options, a worthless wireless charging pad, illuminated door sill plates...etc.

[DaveC113]

Originally Posted by KingLT1

a 1SS is still equipped fairly well.

Why wouldn't they? Ford offers their base GT with a 18x8 on a 235 tire. Dodge does the same thing. I'm not saying I would do it, but if they are going to get the price of the car down then that is the kind of they will have to do.

You would be surprised how many would by a Stripper 6gen with a V8 at a lower price point. Not everybody wants 30 different ambient light options, a worthless wireless charging pad, illuminated door sill plates...etc.

I have a 1SS 1LE with no other options and it's borderline too stripped down imo.

It does NOT have any of the stuff in your last paragraph. No blind spot or cross traffic alerts, it's very basic.

It does have a ton of hard plastic. It's bad enough I already spent $200 on the padded leather knee pads.

Unless you go back to the days where AC and power windows were options I'm not sure how much more you can take away from it.

[gpskinzhut]

Originally Posted by Nsxmatt

I don't see how you could make the current base 1ss any more basic. It already has the base audio, seats, no sunroof, no options. Unless they took away the bigger brakes and LSD.

18x8's all around with 225 or 235 AS's, single piston calipers, softer suspension, base hood, base trunk, lower output V8, etc etc etc.

[V8 Firebird]

I don't think new V8 DOHC engine can go cheaper and can be fit in current Camaro.

Getting new color is possible, I guess 20's Camaro would receive new color " Shock " next year as their replacement of Bright yellow.

Another guess, new Z28 could come that time.

[Kise]

Originally Posted by Nsxmatt

Pay to play is dumb. Some of the best and fastest cars of all time are stripped out cars with big motors. Nobody needs leather, seat heaters, and blind spot monitoring to "play".

if i am not mistaken that's what they make the 1ss for.

people who put big motors in cars aren't bent for cash and most certainly wouldn't shoot for an extremely watered down version unless they plan to really turn that thing inside out. which people do.

a lot of the people overacting about it are people who will never buy the car in the first place.

10 years from now we will have a 800hp zl1, 540 SS and near 400 v6 and people will still complain about what it does or doesn't need.

put the shoe on, if it fits, hit the check out line.. if not then move along!!

[Nsxmatt]

Originally Posted by Kise

people who put big motors in cars aren't bent for cash and most certainly wouldn't shoot for an extremely watered down version unless they plan to really turn that thing inside out. which people do.

History has shown people do pay for it. They have had stripper version of muscle cars since the beginning. COPO cars, stripped Hemi cars, base model LX 5.0's, 93 Camaros and firebirds with LT1's, cloth, A/C and radio delete, and so on. I bought a base lx 5.0 because it was lightest, fastest and it was cheapest. If I bought a V8 Camaro next year it would be on the same terms.

[90503]

Yeah, nobody wants a bare-bones low cost car with a hi HP v-8...lol...

What was this guy thinking?...lol...





This is exactly the theme of what a new low cost trim level V-8/LS/LT1 Camaro should emulate...

It will sell like hot-cakes and will finally fill the gaping hole in the Camaro model line-up....

[KMPrenger]

Anyone thinking they are going to put a lower cost, lower output V8 in this car (this gen) just needs to forget it. The amount of R&D it would take to do so isn't nearly justified.

So that leaves the LT1. Now the 1SS is far from what I'd call "stripped" but its not littered with anything too fancy either aside from the upgraded drivers information center and the standard 8" touchscreen. Its mostly about the performance, which is exactly the same as a 2SS.

So what could they really do to lower the cost of a LT1 equipped Camaro? I don't know if there is enough to lower the cost significantly, but perhaps they can lower the cost a grand or two. I don't really see them putting on LT brakes or suspension as some have mentioned. LT brakes may sacrifice safety and softer suspension would save zero dollars.

Lower end wheels/tires
non-RS lamps
no wing
standard driver center screen and 7" infotainment screen

I can't really come up with anything else aside from that. I'm assuming somewhere around $1,500 max savings there.

So is lowering the cost of an entry level SS by $1,500 going to drive up sales? Doubtful...besides, its the T4 and V6 models that need to be selling more to make a difference to GM. Not the SS.

[90503]

A Camaro with a V-8 does NOT have to be an SS model.

Trying to brain-wash everyone that a T4 or a V6 is the only low-cost Camaro option is a myth that hasn't worked since 2010. I don't know why everyone feels threatened by a base trim Camaro with a V-8....To say a V8 is too much for LS brakes, the tires are too small, etc., etc., is all part of the myth that has kept this V-8 option unavailable.

Somehow V8 is now married to "SS" as the only option, and an excuse for higher priced content that must be purchased to get a V-8 Camaro. I hope Chevy ends that practice the sooner the better for sales and customer preferences.

[Tenfive]

Originally Posted by 90503

Here ya go...

http://gmauthority.com/blog/gm/chevr...vrolet-camaro/

low cost v-8 trim level....about time....

0SS 🤷*♂️

[MackSteelPrivateEye]

Notice it will still be a Gen 6. I suspected its a test to see how that Gen 6 will sell before speaking of or having a Gen 7. I still blame Chevy top execs for not being smart enough to advertise with a strong/cool/badass campaign.

[MackSteelPrivateEye]

Originally Posted by 90503

Yeah, nobody wants a bare-bones low cost car with a hi HP v-8...lol...

What was this guy thinking?...lol...


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This is exactly the theme of what a new low cost trim level V-8/LS/LT1 Camaro should emulate...

It will sell like hot-cakes and will finally fill the gaping hole in the Camaro model line-up....

She's so Fine...that 409.

[JaxChris]

GM Authority gets most of their stories from posts on forums, like this one. As such, their information is about as reliable as rumors posted on here.

The recent trend would suggest that the refresh will only last 2-3 model years and another refresh or generation would be expected in 2022, which aligns with historic Camaro cycles starting on years that end in 2 or 7. The 4th and 6th generation Camaro and Mustang also cycled just 1 year apart from one another and Mustang is looking to short-cycle the 6th gen, starting 7th gen in 2021, as they play catch-up on the dynamics of IRS and advancing their handling prowess.

As for an LS V8 trim or better overall packaging to line up the competition with Ford, I'm not holding my breath. GM refuses to package similarly to their competition on any vehicle because they think too many packages slow production. Ford uses a (mostly) max drill/max wiring strategy so that most packages can be installed on-the-fly without major changes to harnesses or chassis mounting points. Example of GM being stubborn is that they cannibalized the HomeLink wires on the overhead harness to power the rear camera mirror. Instead of keeping HomeLink for trims that don't offer the mirror, they scrapped it altogether. The radio module behind Mustangs infotainment options is the same, GM actually has fixed bundles for each trim. The most flexible thing GM has done in the last 5 years is make navigation an optional, dealer installed software upgrade to the existing HMI for Infotainment 3.0 systems.