[drfeelgood]

Originally Posted by wjones14

I was in the exact same position as the OP when deciding on options while ordering my 2015 BMW. I knew I wasn't interested in spending thousands after delivery on an aftermarket system, and just wanted a decent clean-sounding factory stereo. BMW offered a harman/kardon premium sound option to replace the standard "hi-fi" system. The option was $875.

And just like these forums, the BMW forums had a popular opinion that while the H/K system was an upgrade over the base system, it fell far short of multi-thousand dollar aftermarket systems, and therefore was still "crap."

I listened to that popular opinion and decided not to opt for the H/K stereo. I regretted that decision the whole time I owned the BMW. The standard system truly was crap.

When I was thinking about a 1LE in 2017, one of the deal-breakers for me was that the Bose system was not available in the 1SS, the only trim level offering the 1LE option. So I held out until the 2018 model year when the 1LE was offered in a 2SS, and now have ZERO issues with buyer's remorse.

That background is huge when making future decisions. I definitely don't recommend getting the lowest level stereo and keeping it that way.

What's interesting about people asking opinions about car audio is that, its a listener's choice. Everyone's definition of "good" is different. So I say, listen during the test drive, if you like it , keep it. I spend $7-15k on my audio setups, but that's because my ear is very different than others, and poor quality components (amplifiers, drivers, processors), poorly staged setups, etcs. sound like nails on a chalkboard for me.

Its all about YOU not other people, if you like how something sounds, who cares what others think

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by drfeelgood

That background is huge when making future decisions. I definitely don't recommend getting the lowest level stereo and keeping it that way.

What's interesting about people asking opinions about car audio is that, its a listener's choice. Everyone's definition of "good" is different. So I say, listen during the test drive, if you like it , keep it. I spend $7-15k on my audio setups, but that's because my ear is very different than others, and poor quality components (amplifiers, drivers, processors), poorly staged setups, etcs. sound like nails on a chalkboard for me.

Its all about YOU not other people, if you like how something sounds, who cares what others think

So true.

We have the same thinking, but for me I have that feeling and care about my home system, I just don't see the logic in it for me in a car environment (especially one like a Camaro) where you have lots of road noise and exhaust sounds.

If I am doing that kind of critical listening and truly enjoying all my sound system can offer, then I prefer to do it at home in a more controlled environment.

My home system is B&W towers, center, with a Veledyne DD sub, all processed with an Anthem pre-amp. and powered by a Rotel power amp. Also have a dedicated SACD player hooked up to it as well. My home system was about $30K, but I consider it an investment. It will last me at least 20-30 years.

For me, when I am driving, the BOSE works just fine, and half the time I don't even have my music on at all, this will be even more the case in a few weeks after I get my Corsa system put on.

Being an audiophile can get very expensive though.

[drfeelgood]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

So true.

We have the same thinking, but for me I have that feeling and care about my home system, I just don't see the logic in it for me in a car environment (especially one like a Camaro) where you have lots of road noise and exhaust sounds.

If I am doing that kind of critical listening and truly enjoying all my sound system can offer, then I prefer to do it at home in a more controlled environment.

My home system is B&W towers, center, with a Veledyne DD sub, all processed with an Anthem pre-amp. and powered by a Rotel power amp. Also have a dedicated SACD player hooked up to it as well.

For me, when I am driving, the BOSE works just fine, and half the time I don't even have my music on at all, this will be even more the case in a few weeks after I get my Corsa system put on.

Being an audiophile can get very expensive though.

Beautiful home setup. Yes, it definitely can get expensive. And I get you on the car setup. I chose my exhausts based on this, and my driving habits as well.

I didn't even go all out on the audio setup in my Camaro like I did my V, because its a convertible. Top down or up, it will never be perfect. Even after the original setup, I am still making adjustments. I went from 2 way front stage, to three way, then back to two way, with overpowered hi fidelity midbass driver playing up to 5k, and am now adding a hi fidelity tweeter for the high end, overpowered as well for cleaner sound.

Am creating custom fiberglass enclosures for 6.5" JLW3 subwoofers in the side quarters in the back seat, and adding 2.7" midrange for rear fill. This setup will be different than anything I have ever done, but the acoustics in the convertible are requiring me to get creative. But that's part of the fun. I can now drive at high speeds with the top down, and have loud clean sound filling the front stage. It is an AMAZING experience to be quite frank. We gotta get a mid-Cali Camaro meet one day for all of the Nor-Cal and SoCal folks !!!!! When you hear this system, at 100+ with the top down, I want to see your response

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by drfeelgood

Beautiful home setup. Yes, it definitely can get expensive. And I get you on the car setup. I chose my exhausts based on this, and my driving habits as well.

I didn't even go all out on the audio setup in my Camaro like I did my V, because its a convertible. Top down or up, it will never be perfect. Even after the original setup, I am still making adjustments. I went from 2 way front stage, to three way, then back to two way, with overpowered hi fidelity midbass driver playing up to 5k, and am now adding a hi fidelity tweeter for the high end, overpowered as well for cleaner sound.

Am creating custom fiberglass enclosures for 6.5" JLW3 subwoofers in the side quarters in the back seat, and adding 2.7" midrange for rear fill. This setup will be different than anything I have ever done, but the acoustics in the convertible are requiring me to get creative. But that's part of the fun. I can now drive at high speeds with the top down, and have loud clean sound filling the front stage. It is an AMAZING experience to be quite frank. We gotta get a mid-Cali Camaro meet one day for all of the Nor-Cal and SoCal folks !!!!! When you hear this system, at 100+ with the top down, I want to see your response

That's quite the setup. Would love to hear it sometime. For me, I don't keep cars long enough to justify the expense of a custom set-up. 2-3 years is a long time for me to have a car.

[Wolvie70]

Bose works great with my audiobooks

[drfeelgood]

Originally Posted by Wolvie70

Bose works great with my audiobooks

ehh, you're a Wolverine fan, what do you know? j/k #RollTide

[ctrlz]

Originally Posted by gblaue

It derives surround from stereo audio data.

L-R= Rear speakers (If the content is the same in the L and R, in frequency, magnitude, and out of phase. If not, then it pushes it to L or R based on magnitude.)

Why steer the signal for the rear 6x9's? If you steer it you end up with limited magnitude and lose an opportunity to augment the low-bass. The speakers are there with decent power handling.
Given the market for this car, would have been better to add a subwoofer EQ channel to the existing 3-band equalizer and use the rear 6x9's in that role.
That is the main complaint with this system here-- not enough bass.

[cengell]

I think what it comes down to is how important sound, that is the bass, midrange and the highs? What source of your music is, AM, or FM, or SiriusXM or HQ files. If I was to do it over I am not sure I wold have paid for the Bose option and just get the highest display an 8 inch with GPS and if I could get the basic audio and upgrade it and that cost is about $2k for me. Since I did get the Bose and it was poor for me as I wanted clean loud music with bassss, and having a convertible and wanted bassss when the top is down I spent about 5K and still working on it.

Wished GM would have made a deeper rear 6.5 speaker opening.. Dam them!

Christopher

[gblaue]

Originally Posted by ctrlz

Why steer the signal for the rear 6x9's? If you steer it you end up with limited magnitude and lose an opportunity to augment the low-bass. The speakers are there with decent power handling.
Given the market for this car, would have been better to add a subwoofer EQ channel to the existing 3-band equalizer and use the rear 6x9's in that role.
That is the main complaint with this system here-- not enough bass.

I was speaking of how decoders work, in general. That’s how it was done before DSPs. It a “little more” complex than that now.

I assume by “limited magnitude”, you are referring to SPL. In the Camaro, only low frequencies are steered to the 6x9s. I can assure you that it’s not a 3 band equalizer.

[SpeedLimit]

Originally Posted by drfeelgood

Beautiful home setup. Yes, it definitely can get expensive. And I get you on the car setup. I chose my exhausts based on this, and my driving habits as well.

I didn't even go all out on the audio setup in my Camaro like I did my V, because its a convertible. Top down or up, it will never be perfect. Even after the original setup, I am still making adjustments. I went from 2 way front stage, to three way, then back to two way, with overpowered hi fidelity midbass driver playing up to 5k, and am now adding a hi fidelity tweeter for the high end, overpowered as well for cleaner sound.

Am creating custom fiberglass enclosures for 6.5" JLW3 subwoofers in the side quarters in the back seat, and adding 2.7" midrange for rear fill. This setup will be different than anything I have ever done, but the acoustics in the convertible are requiring me to get creative. But that's part of the fun. I can now drive at high speeds with the top down, and have loud clean sound filling the front stage. It is an AMAZING experience to be quite frank. We gotta get a mid-Cali Camaro meet one day for all of the Nor-Cal and SoCal folks !!!!! When you hear this system, at 100+ with the top down, I want to see your response

Hey can you post your design and fabricator for the rear side quarters? I'm doing a build and would like to include this...

[ctrlz]

Originally Posted by gblaue

I assume by “limited magnitude”, you are referring to SPL. In the Camaro, only low frequencies are steered to the 6x9s.

What I was saying is the rear 6x9's don't play as loud as the doors. So it seems they serve a "rear fill" role similar to the rear side 4" speakers. I was suggesting those rear 6x9 speakers could be better utilized to augment the bass, and it would be nice to adjust their volume independently, since not everyone is a bass freak.

[desertmonkey]

Not an audiophile or anything but there seems to be excessive rattle (rub and buzz) from the doors when the volume is turned up to even moderately high volumes
This is with the bose speaker package. Just wondering if that is just how everyone else's is? Almost sounds like the door was not put together properly.

[keon718nyc]

Originally Posted by desertmonkey

Not an audiophile or anything but there seems to be excessive rattle (rub and buzz) from the doors when the volume is turned up to even moderately high volumes
This is with the bose speaker package. Just wondering if that is just how everyone else's is? Almost sounds like the door was not put together properly.

There is these little rubber plastic looking plugs around the doors. After some time or right away they can rattle. I stopped this by touching them with a slight dab of super glue reinstalling them (5min total) and never heard rattle since. The rear had a slight rattle at one point but i put some padding in the rear speaker location and kinda pushed it out so the noise is now gone. Other then that i cant think of many other places other then the trunk area but no issues there...


This was posted way back almost 2 years ago so its kinda lost in the forums but here was the response from the member at the time that worked for me after following.


Originally Posted by MrNoMercy
#1 thing you can try to see if it gets rid of it. Remove the plastic access plugs at the bottom of the door. There are two of them and they are square. Take them out one at a time starting with the one closest to the back of the car. If that fixes the rattle then use flocking tape or dynamat to wrap it with. That should fix it. I cannot stress this enough though. Do not use any flocking tape or dynmat on any moving parts. This is what was done by the dealer to fix mine.

[drfeelgood]

Originally Posted by SpeedLimit

Hey can you post your design and fabricator for the rear side quarters? I'm doing a build and would like to include this...

ok, will do once we get going