[JANNETTYRACING]

Originally Posted by Sixgunsled

Thank you for the information! I already pulled the trigger on the 2" headers with catless mid pipes just received the tracking info a few minutes ago. Bought them super cheap from someone in the classified section. If this is going to be a driver and not just a race car though sticking with VP110 isn't really much of an option seeing as how it is $9.00 a gallon. Thats the main reason I would like to run e85. That and the more timing you can run with it plus it burns cooler than regular 93 if I'm not mistaken. The other additional benefit of the port injection is cleaning the valve gunk. If I were to stay with the DI how often would I have to clean the valvetrain? I ordered a might mouse catch can good for 1200hp to help with that issue as well. So the fore system with the LT4 HPFP and LT4 injectors will get me to the 1000hp level? or would I have to run the Lingenfelter stuff? One last thing, so your telling me there is no way to keep IAT's in check without using meth for 1/4 or 1/2 mile racing?

About every 100,000 miles.

No way an LT-4 fuel system will support 1000 RWHP on pump gas never mind E fuels, You would need a full aftermarket DI system

Not likely when you get above 15 psi intercoolers get overwelmed in a long run, we build some Texas mile cars and use it for cooling at 20 psi which is what it will take to make 1000 RWHP.

I run it on my Transformers car at 24 PSI for 1/4 mile.

Ted.

[JANNETTYRACING]

Originally Posted by Inkedmongo

So that kit installs in place of the low side fuel system, taps into the HPFP via hardware, and forces so much fuel through the HPFP of choice that with upgraded injectors, you have the fuel supply capable of reaching high numbers without going secondary port injection systems such as 42autosports or Weapon X etc?

Not exactly, you still need all the DI parts to support the power goal.

[Sixgunsled]

Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

About every 100,000 miles.

No way an LT-4 fuel system will support 1000 RWHP on pump gas never mind E fuels, You would need a full aftermarket DI system

Not likely when you get above 15 psi intercoolers get overwelmed in a long run, we build some Texas mile cars and use it for cooling at 20 psi which is what it will take to make 1000 RWHP.

I run it on my Transformers car at 24 PSI for 1/4 mile.

Ted.

Thanks for the info Tim! I’ll take all of this into consideration moving forward. What about a PD blower using a killer chiller? Just weighing all the options.

[JANNETTYRACING]

Originally Posted by Sixgunsled

Thanks for the info Tim! I’ll take all of this into consideration moving forward. What about a PD blower using a killer chiller? Just weighing all the options.

It's Ted LOL

PD blower are no different the intercoolers will get overwelmed at high boost and a Killer chiller won't help.

You are limited to the size of the intercooler core and what it can absorb for heat.

A water to Air intercooler system running Ice water is what everyone uses in drag racing because it works but not practical for the street.

Ted.

[Sixgunsled]

Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

It's Ted LOL

PD blower are no different the intercoolers will get overwelmed at high boost and a Killer chiller won't help.

You are limited to the size of the intercooler core and what it can absorb for heat.

A water to Air intercooler system running Ice water is what everyone uses in drag racing because it works but not practical for the street.

Ted.

Damn it I meant Ted not Tim lol my bad.

yeah I was thinking may be an air to water intercooler with a killer chiller as that is what the Dodge Demon uses.

[ninetres]

I’d recommend a TT build. Flip of a switch to adjust power levels from: usable 700ish whp max for street use, and 1000hp race use.

Running around daily with 1000hp on tap with your right foot is pointless. It will just melt the tires at WOT at any speed under 100mph (and then still if you want it to). Nothing is more fun than useable BIG HP. But that number is way under 1000hp.

[JANNETTYRACING]

Originally Posted by ninetres

I’d recommend a TT build. Flip of a switch to adjust power levels from: usable 700ish whp max for street use, and 1000hp race use.

Running around daily with 1000hp on tap with your right foot is pointless. It will just melt the tires at WOT at any speed under 100mph (and then still if you want it to). Nothing is more fun than useable BIG HP. But that number is way under 1000hp.

Agreed Hellion for the win!

[Inkedmongo]

Any forced induction is going to lead us to hitting our heads on the wall dealing with fueling. Throwing a 9k turbo kit isn't a solution when PD or Centri is less and any of them are going to require a port injection setup or small fortune in DI upgrade.

[JDP Sales]

We've made 950 Wheel on E85 + Meth on LT4 DI and auxiliary low-side help only. You don't need to spend crazy money on DI stuff and if you were going to, I'd leave the DI the way it is and add port injection. GM went Port for a reason on the ZR1. Its better.

Let me know if we can help in any way.

All the best,

Jared

[JDP Sales]

Originally Posted by Inkedmongo

Any forced induction is going to lead us to hitting our heads on the wall dealing with fueling. Throwing a 9k turbo kit isn't a solution when PD or Centri is less and any of them are going to require a port injection setup or small fortune in DI upgrade.

Turbo makes more power on less boost. More efficient. Also, the fortune isn't what some would lead you to believe. It can be done safely and for less money than the Port or big bore DI stuff.

Happy to help should you ever need it. Check us out sometime.

All the best,

Jared

[JANNETTYRACING]

Originally Posted by Inkedmongo

Any forced induction is going to lead us to hitting our heads on the wall dealing with fueling. Throwing a 9k turbo kit isn't a solution when PD or Centri is less and any of them are going to require a port injection setup or small fortune in DI upgrade.

The Hellion system has made More power at 9 PSI than any other forced induction method by 75 RWHP on 93 octane pump gas, and the potential for 1200 RWHP, with enough fuel supply,

That is pretty Cheap HP when you calculate in the price difference between other FI systems at 75 RWHP Less.

Most of the other FI systems will not support 1200 RWHP.

Ted.

[KingLT1]

You have to change the Turbos to hit 1200 don't you?

[Inkedmongo]

I can understand two turbos providing more power than a single PD or centri style supercharger, but you're still dealing with cramming 9+ psi of air into an engine that it needs fuel to account for.

You saying a TT setup at 9psi would make more power and use less fuel, maintain the proper AFR, and not reach that 6ms injector mark you stress us on (which we appreciate your sharing this stuff with us) than a PD or Centri setup pushing the same amount of air through the engine?

[JANNETTYRACING]

Originally Posted by Inkedmongo

I can understand two turbos providing more power than a single PD or centri style supercharger, but you're still dealing with cramming 9+ psi of air into an engine that it needs fuel to account for.

You saying a TT setup at 9psi would make more power and use less fuel, maintain the proper AFR, and not reach that 6ms injector mark you stress us on (which we appreciate your sharing this stuff with us) than a PD or Centri setup pushing the same amount of air through the engine?

Correct as turbos do not give up as much parasitic loss.

I still have plenty of injector for gasoline but was up against the octane wall at 685 RWHP.

The only thing I didn't get to try was race gas, I would expect we can easily make 775 RWHP.

We tried some E-60 and made like 740 lbs of torque at 4500 where I started to see the fuel pressure tank so I aborted the run and testing on E fuels.

Ted.