[hotlap]

Originally Posted by shaffe

Only 1 I will argue is the 13 GT500. There was 1 article, the MT one where the 500 had brake fade/heat. IIRC None of the other reviews mentioned brake fade/heat. So we are to take that one article as gospel then? If that's the case then we need to take the Z06 overheating in the MT best drivers car test as gospel as well and all Z06's can't track either.

In this case there were corners cut also. Anyway, water under the birdge

We took a look under the cars, and where the Camaro had obvious ductwork to provide cool air to the front brakes, the Mustang had none.

By the end of the first lap, the brakes had already begun to heat up so badly, we could smell them from the pits as the car passed by on the front straight.
https://www.motortrend.com/cars/chev...-shelby-gt500/

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

Well... there's one in my garage, my friend sold his 9.5x vortech 2012 two years ago, his brother had a low 10sec nitrous 2012 and then there are god knows how many on youtube and on forum fast lists. Now if you want to narrow it down to S550's there are 15 FI on the Mg6 fast list alone and plenty more on youtube.

If you want to narrow it down further to just 2018 whipple cars , well Whipple just started shipping a month or two ago. look it will take a good tire(not an NT05R), possibly half shafts although i'm sure its possible on stock ones, a good tune, headers or cat deletes, E85 although it should be doable on a 100+pump tune and maybe seats pulled.

FWIW a 2018 has gone 8.70@161 on a turbo already with stock motor and A10...8000rpm shifts.

I find it funny stock motor is so important when one has thousands into a supercharged build anyway. And calling it a stock motor is funny too. Stock with an extra lung lmao.
But that’s what your crowd is always obsessed about. How many mods or what’s still stock etc. funny that stuff never happens in real life.

If I was trying to go really fast I’d do drop in rods pistons anyway. Even if the motor was probably ok. It’s less than 2k and can support 1500 hp. And piece of mind. But I guess I couldn’t say stupid stuff on the internet then

The 8.7 car just blew out his stock diff btw. One less stock part to brag about

And how many of these stock motors have oil pump gears? That’s not a stock motor

[kttxz06]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

I find it funny stock motor is so important when one has thousands into a supercharged build anyway. And calling it a stock motor is funny too. Stock with an extra lung lmao.
But that’s what your crowd is always obsessed about. How many mods or what’s still stock etc. funny that stuff never happens in real life.

If I was trying to go really fast I’d do drop in rods pistons anyway. Even if the motor was probably ok. It’s less than 2k and can support 1500 hp. And piece of mind. But I guess I couldn’t say stupid stuff on the internet then

The 8.7 car just blew out his stock diff btw. One less stock part to brag about

And how many of these stock motors have oil pump gears? That’s not a stock motor

Please tell me the Mustang fanboys are not claiming a 8.7 car as being stock. haha. That's why we can never give them credit for actually doing a 8.7. Because they have to lie to get more likes and clicks. Dude, if you hit 8.7. Congrats, but call it how it is. A twin turbo set up. smh. I mean, come on. Jeezus. They crack me up.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by kttxz06

Please tell me the Mustang fanboys are not claiming a 8.7 car as being stock. haha. That's why we can never give them credit for actually doing a 8.7. Because they have to lie to get more likes and clicks. Dude, if you hit 8.7. Congrats, but call it how it is. A twin turbo set up. smh. I mean, come on. Jeezus. They crack me up.

They mention everything that’s still stock and downplay the rest of the mods. I’ve been hearing the term simple bolt on supercharger lately. Some youtubers are trying to blur the lines and make an FI car sound like a bolt on car.

In other words.... fake news

[ULTRAZLS1]

Just figured out what pp1 and pp2 stands for

Pretender Pack stage 1.

Pretender Pack stage 2.

For when you want to pretend or when you really want to pretend

[Mountain]

Originally Posted by hotlap

In the case there were corners cut also. Anyway, water under the birdge

Well, that’s sad, because those GT500’s (2013-14) had basically no rotor backing plate (the part is similar to the SS track shield and is the FRPP/FP front rotor track shields) and the brakes have the thermal mass capability (15” rotor, 6-piston caliper).

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

Well... there's one in my garage, my friend sold his 9.5x vortech 2012 two years ago, his brother had a low 10sec nitrous 2012 and then there are god knows how many on youtube and on forum fast lists. Now if you want to narrow it down to S550's there are 15 FI on the Mg6 fast list alone and plenty more on youtube.

If you want to narrow it down further to just 2018 whipple cars , well Whipple just started shipping a month or two ago. look it will take a good tire(not an NT05R), possibly half shafts although i'm sure its possible on stock ones, a good tune, headers or cat deletes, E85 although it should be doable on a 100+pump tune and maybe seats pulled.

FWIW a 2018 has gone 8.70@161 on a turbo already with stock motor and A10...8000rpm shifts.

That is a handful of people...and I'm talking about Mustangs that are running 9s easily with just slapping a blower on. It ain't happening. It takes time, effort, a well built and well put together car, and an experienced driver to take a car like a Mustang GT and build it into the 9s.

Originally Posted by shaffe

Dude would you just stop with the 350 and the 1/4 mile LOL. It's becoming a pet peeve of mine everytime I see you mention the 350 and the 1/4 mile lol.

What's your problem chief? I'm starting to wonder if you have a problem with me or something. I just sat here defending the GT and giving it praise. And I wasn't even talking about the GT350 and the quarter mile...I was mentioning that the PP2 with aftermarket coolers would be on the GT350's level even if it, the PP2, would not match the GT350 in the quarter mile. You took my comment way out of context. And out of everyone here that is trashing the PP2, I actually stood up for them because I don't think it's a bad thing. And THAT is what you come down on me for? WTF man? I was actually giving the PP2 credit and that's how you come at me? Again??

[smokinzx14r]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

I find it funny stock motor is so important when one has thousands into a supercharged build anyway. And calling it a stock motor is funny too. Stock with an extra lung lmao.
But that’s what your crowd is always obsessed about. How many mods or what’s still stock etc. funny that stuff never happens in real life.

If I was trying to go really fast I’d do drop in rods pistons anyway. Even if the motor was probably ok. It’s less than 2k and can support 1500 hp. And piece of mind. But I guess I couldn’t say stupid stuff on the internet then

The 8.7 car just blew out his stock diff btw. One less stock part to brag about

And how many of these stock motors have oil pump gears? That’s not a stock motor

Well my S550 didn't run 8s , but it did run high 9s.. The motor is untouched ( no oil pump gears either ) stock trans , stock converter , stock half shafts and drive shaft .. In 3 years I put a ton of 1/8 and 1/4 mile passes on it and not one problem .. I never was shooting for 9s , I was just looking for high 10s .. Procharger HO kit on E85 with a 3.50 pulley was all that was needed .. So it adds up like this Procharger HO kit and a set of drag tires and wheels came out to 7k , car was 30k out the door ( 2015 Base GT A6 3.55 gears )... So 37k I ended up with a high 9 second car ..You have to admit that is a pretty good bang for the buck .. I have a new 2018 1SS now and I'm not sure that I can do what I did with the Mustang at that price .. But I didn't buy the Camaro to do what I did with the Mustang ..
..The Camaro is not getting a super charger , it's just going to get some simple bolt ons and shoot for a good solid high to mid 11 second car..

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by smokinzx14r

Well my S550 didn't run 8s , but it did run high 9s.. The motor is untouched ( no oil pump gears either ) stock trans , stock converter , stock half shafts and drive shaft .. In 3 years I put a ton of 1/8 and 1/4 mile passes on it and not one problem .. I never was shooting for 9s , I was just looking for high 10s .. Procharger HO kit on E85 with a 3.50 pulley was all that was needed .. So it adds up like this Procharger HO kit and a set of drag tires and wheels came out to 7k , car was 30k out the door ( 2015 Base GT A6 3.55 gears )... So 37k I ended up with a high 9 second car ..You have to admit that is a pretty good bang for the buck .. I have a new 2018 1SS now and I'm not sure that I can do what I did with the Mustang at that price .. But I didn't buy the Camaro to do what I did
Mustang ..The Camaro is not getting a super charger , it's just going to get some simple bolt ons and shoot for a good solid high to mid 11 second car..

That’s solid

I paid 30k too. Have run 10.8 so far with just some bolt ons. Probably 4k invested

Pretty sure I would hit 9s if I added a good SC setup to my car

[smokinzx14r]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

That’s solid

I paid 30k too. Have run 10.8 so far with just some bolt ons. Probably 4k invested

Pretty sure I would hit 9s if I added a good SC setup to my car

Very nice numbers for simple add ons ... I like that ...Well done ..

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

That is a handful of people...and I'm talking about Mustangs that are running 9s easily with just slapping a blower on. It ain't happening. It takes time, effort, a well built and well put together car, and an experienced driver to take a car like a Mustang GT and build it into the 9s.

What's your problem chief? I'm starting to wonder if you have a problem with me or something. I just sat here defending the GT and giving it praise. And I wasn't even talking about the GT350 and the quarter mile...I was mentioning that the PP2 with aftermarket coolers would be on the GT350's level even if it, the PP2, would not match the GT350 in the quarter mile. You took my comment way out of context. And out of everyone here that is trashing the PP2, I actually stood up for them because I don't think it's a bad thing. And THAT is what you come down on me for? WTF man? I was actually giving the PP2 credit and that's how you come at me? Again??

That was meant to be a tongue and cheek jab that is why I put the caps lock "LOL" at the end, guess it didn't come of that way! My bad dude!

Yeah I noticed you were praising the PP2 guess I was just shocked to see it so I was left speechless hahaha

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by smokinzx14r

Very nice numbers for simple add ons ... I like that ...Well done ..

Thanks. Somewhat simple I guess. Ive spent more now trying to knock off a few more tenths. But high 10's low 11s isn't that hard to accomplish with either platform NA. It gets tougher after that.

Have a lot of testing and tuning into it as well

[kttxz06]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Thanks. Somewhat simple I guess. Ive spent more now trying to knock off a few more tenths. But high 10's low 11s isn't that hard to accomplish with either platform NA. It gets tougher after that.

Have a lot of testing and tuning into it as well

Agreed. I'm about to find out what $15k into a Zl1 does at the track come October. By then tho, I'll prob have my motor built, so it will be more like $26k total just in mods alone. Suspension, tires, included. We do plan on having a track day once we get our 1st cold front blowing through with my set up now which should be low to mid 9.


If we don't hit into the 8's after we yank the motor, then we did something wrong. I obviously won't be driving. haha.

[FastCarFanBoy]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

I find it funny stock motor is so important when one has thousands into a supercharged build anyway. And calling it a stock motor is funny too. Stock with an extra lung lmao.
But that’s what your crowd is always obsessed about. How many mods or what’s still stock etc. funny that stuff never happens in real life.

If I was trying to go really fast I’d do drop in rods pistons anyway. Even if the motor was probably ok. It’s less than 2k and can support 1500 hp. And piece of mind. But I guess I couldn’t say stupid stuff on the internet then

The 8.7 car just blew out his stock diff btw. One less stock part to brag about

And how many of these stock motors have oil pump gears? That’s not a stock motor

sorry if I aggravated your hemorrhoids. Stock motor is important to some people’s wallet. I don’t want to build my motor unless I have to. It’s also important to show exactly what’s been modded... God knows you guys will go ape shit if an owner forgets to list a BAP in their mod list. Stock motor is important here because you have had people claim that the coyote can’t handle that much power on the stock motor.

Stock OPG’s in mine can’t speak for any others.