[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

all 350's come with SC2's starting in '19

I know you have trouble keeping up, but nobody ever compared the GT to the ZL1 on a road course. The GT is only .5 seconds slower that a ZL1 in the 1/4 mile bone stock... with a tune its damn near a drivers race.

And bone stock it beats the $65,000 GT350R. Which further proves that there is nothing in the ZL1's price range, cheaper, or even $20K more expensive that can beat the ZL1 at anything except for the Z06.

[torqueaddict]

Cm6 fast list zl1 10.9 s quarter. M6g 2018 gt 11.9 (the moon was blue and the planets aligned that day). Hmmm, I don't know but that looks like a full second difference to me.

[Koldunic]

Originally Posted by torqueaddict

Cm6 fast list zl1 10.9 s quarter. M6g 2018 gt 11.9 (the moon was blue and the planets aligned that day). Hmmm, I don't know but that looks like a full second difference to me.

Indeed. Lol

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by torqueaddict

Cm6 fast list zl1 10.9 s quarter. M6g 2018 gt 11.9 (the moon was blue and the planets aligned that day). Hmmm, I don't know but that looks like a full second difference to me.

You did it wrong. You're supposed to use the best modded A10 GT run with a pro driver in the best possible conditions against the worst bone stock M6 trans ZL1 run with an average driver in horrible conditions. Ricer...err, Mustang math.

[kttxz06]

Originally Posted by torqueaddict

Cm6 fast list zl1 10.9 s quarter. M6g 2018 gt 11.9 (the moon was blue and the planets aligned that day). Hmmm, I don't know but that looks like a full second difference to me.

A full second in the 1/4 = 4 car lengths. Basically, a beat down .

[kttxz06]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

You did it wrong. You're supposed to use the best modded A10 GT run with a pro driver in the best possible conditions against the worst bone stock M6 trans ZL1 run with an average driver in horrible conditions. Ricer...err, Mustang math.

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by kttxz06

A full second in the 1/4 = 4 car lengths. Basically, a beat down .

Its a lot more than that. around 10 cars

that's what you call getting took to gapplebees

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Its a lot more than that. around 10 cars

that's what you call getting took to gapplebees

That equals more than one of these.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Its a lot more than that. around 10 cars

that's what you call getting took to gapplebees

And getting stuck with the bill...

[FastCarFanBoy]

Originally Posted by torqueaddict

Cm6 fast list zl1 10.9 s quarter. M6g 2018 gt 11.9 (the moon was blue and the planets aligned that day). Hmmm, I don't know but that looks like a full second difference to me.

We only use certified magazine testing here dude, not some guy who ran in -2000da with a “stock” ZL1

11.9 GT Vs 11.4 ZL1

SS somewhere back in the low 12’s

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by torqueaddict

Shouldn't that be a no-brainer? Who likes to pay more for less? If these specialty Fords were at the very least solidly built, one could somewhat justify the cost, but sadly they don't seem to be. You're paying for a name.

And sure, their resale value might be higher, but they cost more up front. Their depreciation rate would have to be really low to offset some of that cost difference.

It depends on the crowd. Having been in the Audi, BMW world for the most part for the last 5 years or so, that is not always true.

You look on the forums of those cars and there is a lot of fan boys and elitists who care more about prestige and image over performance and function.

I am a performance car guy first, I will go after whatever is killing it and the car that has the whole package, regardless of manufacture. Right now, that is not BMW or Audi (san the TTRS, which I almost choose over the SS 1LE)

If I had to pay full MSRP for the SS 1LE, I probably would have gone with the TTRS and put about $5K into it for a tune, downpipes, exhaust, springs and swaybar had a 3.2 0-60 car that could still handle well.

However, when I can pick up a 2SS 1LE for $44K, that is about half the price of the TTRS, and the 1LE is putting up the numbers of the M3 GTS and GT350R, you just can't pass that up.

[torqueaddict]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

We only use certified magazine testing here dude, not some guy who ran in -2000da with a “stock” ZL1

11.9 GT Vs 11.4 ZL1

SS somewhere back in the low 12’s

LOL, certified? By whom? The Ford Nutswinger Certification body? I'll stick to the member posted times, thank you. Just like you have a problem with 'some guy' posting his slip, we have no idea what prep was done for those mag times, just their word.

I have little reason to doubt this run:

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Just like I don't doubt the m6g member who posted the 11.9 slip.

But feel free to deny.

[torqueaddict]

Originally Posted by kttxz06

Think about that. The Zl1 is a full 1/4 mile ahead of a GT on the fast list. A full 1/4 mile ahead. In 1 lap!!!!!!!!!! 4 lap race and the Zl1 is lapping the GT. So, their arguments, whatever they may be will fall flat.

Yep, they probably had to send out a search party for that GT.

[torqueaddict]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

It depends on the crowd. Having been in the Audi, BMW world for the most part for the last 5 years or so, that is not always true.

You look on the forums of those cars and there is a lot of fan boys and elitists who care more about prestige and image over performance and function.

Point taken. I guess in their minds, the prestige is worth it.

I am a performance car guy first, I will go after whatever is killing it and the car that has the whole package, regardless of manufacture. Right now, that is not BMW or Audi (san the TTRS, which I almost choose over the SS 1LE)

If I had to pay full MSRP for the SS 1LE, I probably would have gone with the TTRS and put about $5K into it for a tune, downpipes, exhaust, springs and swaybar had a 3.2 0-60 car that could still handle well.

However, when I can pick up a 2SS 1LE for $44K, that is about half the price of the TTRS, and the 1LE is putting up the numbers of the M3 GTS and GT350R, you just can't pass that up.

Considering straight line performance and price, I'd say the TTRS is more in the ZL1 category than SS 1LE, but the fact you cross shopped the SS 1LE speaks volumes. Not an Audi fan, but there's no denying that TTRS put up some good numbers stock.