[BigPopp]

For me, any V8 only lineup would have to mandate the “entry” level V8 run on regular unleaded, get similar mileage to the V6 and at a price point equal to or better than the V6.

I’m one of those older guys who bought a Camaro because of the convertible, not for performance. As an avid rider, I hop on my bike when I need a speed fix, my Camaro is my “date night” ride when I’m with the Mrs.

[shaffe]

AS others have said, more likely the V-8 goes away before it goes all V-8

Originally Posted by Gen6_1Le

And pick up the percentage of people who don't want or can't afford a mid engine Corvette , Camaro goes for a smaller more profitable market and leave a dying segment may just be that ticket . With the gen 6 Camaro it has already taken steps into the shoes of the Corvette.

I don't see that/don't want to see that happen. The Camaro will NEVER be a Corvette and IMO could never fill the role of the Corvette. I have said it many many times, dream is to one day purchase a brand new vette. If the vette just goes to an astronomical price and the Camaro is slotted in as a "replacement". Sorry no sale.

Originally Posted by Glen e

Having owned both, I can tell you that the majority of Corvette people won't consider a Camaro. It's just two different animals.

This ^ If I want a Corvette, I am not going to consider a Camaro, and vice versa if I wanted a Camaro I would not consider a Vette

[rburke76]

lets end this 7th generation talk now....
Next camaro -

1.Many color options like mustang and challenger has - lets have green, brown, gold, black cherry, orange, yellow, etc...

2. Only 4 style options - LT, RS, SS, Z28,..get rid of ZL1..

3. No 4cyl or 6cyl....4 V8 options; 5.3 liter - 300hp, 5.7 liter - 400hp, 6.2 liter - 455 hp, 7.4 liter 700hp

4. Shape it like 70-73 models, classic look but updated for modern times


5. more trunk space, fix belt line, and visibility


6. make it fun again! Put it in 30 second or 1 minute commercials!


Enough said! Listen to this post GM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[90503]

I don't see anything to be gained with V-8 only options for future Camaros...

But how about offering non-V8 engines in Corvette's?....The turbo-4, and V-6 plus offer turbo-sixes like the Caddy?....If they are such great engines, having them in a Corvette should boost sales...

I love the Corvettes, but I don't see why they are such a sacred cow....

[Need4Camaro]

Originally Posted by 90503

I don't see anything to be gained with V-8 only options for future Camaros...

But how about offering non-V8 engines in Corvette's?....The turbo-4, and V-6 plus offer turbo-sixes like the Caddy?....If they are such great engines, having them in a Corvette should boost sales...

I love the Corvettes, but I don't see why they are such a sacred cow....

I don't believe the Corvette is in the league of a mass seller like everything else GM makes, and while they are mass produced, Chevrolet isnt so reliant on their sales as they are on the rest of their platforms. Although the Camaro is a performance car, it still fits the mass seller platform. The Corvette is a flagship car, it represents everything GM stands for...It would be like desecrating a sacred sacrament by putting anything less than a V8 in there. Corvette owners would have a cow watching people jump in 4 cyl and 6 cyl cars that look just like theirs. Infact I do not know of any manufactures flagship vehicles that offer anything less than their best.

[gpskinzhut]

Originally Posted by rburke76

lets end this 7th generation talk now....
Next camaro -

1.Many color options like mustang and challenger has - lets have green, brown, gold, black cherry, orange, yellow, etc...

2. Only 4 style options - LT, RS, SS, Z28,..get rid of ZL1..

3. No 4cyl or 6cyl....4 V8 options; 5.3 liter - 300hp, 5.7 liter - 400hp, 6.2 liter - 455 hp, 7.4 liter 700hp

4. Shape it like 70-73 models, classic look but updated for modern times


5. more trunk space, fix belt line, and visibility


6. make it fun again! Put it in 30 second or 1 minute commercials!


Enough said! Listen to this post GM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No, GM. Please don't.

While we're at it, let's delete this terribadness all together.

[Need4Camaro]

Originally Posted by gpskinzhut

No, GM. Please don't.

While we're at it, let's delete this terribadness all together.

Trust me... GM ain't dumb enough to try that.

[triggerjerk]

As long as it has a competitive power rating, I don't care the cylinder count. I bet GM follows Ford and drops the V6. I see a turbo 4cyl and hybrid V8 . . . imho

[Gen6_1Le]

Originally Posted by shaffe

AS others have said, more likely the V-8 goes away before it goes all V-8



I don't see that/don't want to see that happen. The Camaro will NEVER be a Corvette and IMO could never fill the role of the Corvette. I have said it many many times, dream is to one day purchase a brand new vette. If the vette just goes to an astronomical price and the Camaro is slotted in as a "replacement". Sorry no sale.



This ^ If I want a Corvette, I am not going to consider a Camaro, and vice versa if I wanted a Camaro I would not consider a Vette

I'm not saying replace anything but move the Camaro closer to Corvette then it is now , the front engine Corvette is going away which opens doors for the Camaro . There are people going with Camaro over Corvette now , may not be in masses but its happening . It was my choice last year , i love seeing Corvettes but i wouldn't buy one ,now a 64 to 67 Corvette i would buy .

[Dethsupp0rt]

Originally Posted by gpskinzhut

No, GM. Please don't.

While we're at it, let's delete this terribadness all together.

No doubt. There's something in the water today, apparently . . . and it's not good.

[MrChrisLS3]

Originally Posted by Martinjlm

You are not alone. There are many who don’t want or can’t afford (let’s not forget gas and insurance) to keep and maintain a V8. That and the need to balance CAFE and California FE requirements (which apply to 17 other states) are the reasons I am totally certain an all V8 lineup is not in the cards.

I can't seem to find specific sales figures for all of 2017, but I would guess that at least 65% of Camaro sales were V6 and 4 cyl. So, those buying them for budget reasons are now buying a Ford or Dodge, or foreign. Those buying for preference or other reason, are also buying Ford, Dodge, or foreign for the same reason. There might be a few that chose V6 that might opt for the V8 just because they like the Camaro.

Whichever the case, if GM went all V8 they're going to lose about 50% of sales. At most they'll make up 15% of lost V6-4cyl sales to FE Corvette cross shoppers. Camaro would not survive on that volume.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by rburke76

lets end this 7th generation talk now....
Next camaro -

1.Many color options like mustang and challenger has - lets have green, brown, gold, black cherry, orange, yellow, etc...

2. Only 4 style options - LT, RS, SS, Z28,..get rid of ZL1..

3. No 4cyl or 6cyl....4 V8 options; 5.3 liter - 300hp, 5.7 liter - 400hp, 6.2 liter - 455 hp, 7.4 liter 700hp

4. Shape it like 70-73 models, classic look but updated for modern times


5. more trunk space, fix belt line, and visibility


6. make it fun again! Put it in 30 second or 1 minute commercials!


Enough said! Listen to this post GM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please don't.

The 2nd gen is an atrocity that should be left behind.

[IMadeYouReadThis]

Originally Posted by triggerjerk

As long as it has a competitive power rating, I don't care the cylinder count. I bet GM follows Ford and drops the V6. I see a turbo 4cyl and hybrid V8 . . . imho

That would be a bad move.

that V6 is the absolute best bang for your buck out of the three power plants.

The true blue collar mans sports car. paired with the 6-speed manual transmission it is a real bang for your buck

[IMadeYouReadThis]

Originally Posted by vikingrinn

"V6 is the absolute best bang for your buck"

so, if you could purchase an advanced AFM/VVT/DOD/etc. V8 for the very same price - you'd still choose the V6?



honestly (and this isn't targeted at any one particular member here), i'm not quite sure if this is some twilight zone episode or punkd…

seriously, a lot of the responses and supporting rationale to this post aren't quite like anything ever heard from muscle car/performance enthusiasts anywhere previously - welcome to the neu era? seems this model has lost a significant amount (not all...) its original demographic off to the competition and picked up some different minded buyers along the way? no wonder sales are down 36% year to year - a lot of the responses within this thread are testament to that...

7th Generation Camaro: Large Volume Low/Mid Price Range Front-Engine V8 Muscle Car (2+2 Seater)
8th Generation Corvette: Low Volume High Price Range Mid-Engine V8 Sports Car (2 Seater)

can only hope and pray this path is cleared up for marketing via team oppenheiser (and for that matter, team juechter) in time for 7th generation - if there is one at this point...

Well if you can get the V8 for the same price that would obviously be the blue collar sports car but that's not the case.

And it would have to be worth it performance-wise the GM to do it . The 5.3 may be worth it it would add more weight and very little else. However the extra torque would be nice but I'd rather see a turbocharged V6.

. I disable displacement On Demand on my truck by the way I have no interest in having that garbage in my car however I shift my own Gears so I don't really need to worry about it.

The bottom line is the demographic may have changed but if you're talking about me I've had a 2002 z28 since my 20s then a 5th gen for a year and and now this 6th gen since the tail-end of 38 and just turned 40 so I would say I'm more than qualified to talk about what's what in the Camaro world.

To me what changed is the price of the car.

it's got a much more expensive it's basically in Corvette territory once you start getting into the SS. that's old man money territory.

Now like I said I just turned 40 I'm an old man too but I don't have 40 to 50 to $60,000 Canadian laying around to drop on a Camaro

And if I can do 0 to 60 in 5.1 seconds on regular gasoline while getting good gas mileage there is no downside to saving that extra cash

To each their own then I used to think like some of you guys but I've seen the light