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Old 07-05-2018, 10:34 AM   #15
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Oil: Pennzoil Platinum( Ultra Platinum is not Dexos 1 Gen 2 approved).



Filter: AC Delco PF64. Be careful with other filters since the bypass value on the OEM filter is 22 PSI. The most popular WIX filter is 12 PSI. Might be a warranty concern.
I have read WIX/NAPA Golf raised their to 22 psi+. But i couldnt find from their actual site.
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Old 07-05-2018, 10:45 AM   #16
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I have read WIX/NAPA Golf raised their to 22 psi+. But i couldnt find from their actual site.

Yeah there is a WIX filter with a 22 PSI bypass setting at least according to their website. But at the time( March), I couldn't find it anywhere on amazon or auto stores. Just the lower 12 PSI one.
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Old 07-05-2018, 11:02 AM   #17
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Delco filter and Mobil 1 synthetic 5w 30
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Old 07-05-2018, 11:12 AM   #18
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Oil: Pennzoil Platinum( Ultra Platinum is not Dexos 1 Gen 2 approved).

This is true. I'm not sure if Ultra couldn't meet the standard or they just didn't certify it. My owner's manual just recommends dexos1 for my LGX and doesn't specify gen 1 or gen 2, although it does show the gen 2 logo. Ultra is certainly a good oil, but I'm not going to use it in my new Camaro because it doesn't have the gen 2 certification. I'm not sure how much difference it makes with my LGX. Might be a bigger issue with a turbo I4.


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Filter: AC Delco PF64. Be careful with other filters since the bypass value on the OEM filter is 22 PSI. The most popular WIX filter is 12 PSI. Might be a warranty concern.

I don' think it's going to be a warranty issue unless GM requires a certain specification and as far as I know they do not. At one time I think GM was recommending a value of 15 psi minimum, but I'm not sure if that's still the case.



Under most conditions, the filter should not go into bypass unless you've left it on for so long the filter became so clogged the bypass is always engaged. If this is the case you probably have bigger issues than filter choice. One other instance is during cold starts when the flow rate of the filter isn't sufficient to meet demand. In this instance it's better to have a lower value provided that value is sufficient to prevent the filter from going into bypass under normal driving conditions.



I'm not sure what the Mobil 1 extended filter bypass value is, but the filter is designed to last 20,000 miles which is way more than I'd ever use it. However that does suggest to me that it's going to be much farther away from going into bypass than a filter with a 5,000 to 10,000 rating. That to me is a bigger consideration than what the bypass valve is rated at.
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Old 07-05-2018, 11:13 AM   #19
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Seriously, any oil that meets the owners manual spec and is put out by a major manufacturer will work fine For a daily driver. Change it on a common sense interval like 5000 miles, or follow the oil minder and ditch that insane 3000 miles change your daddy taught you. (The Track maybe something different).The same with the filters…Unless you get a improperly manufactured filter, which any of them can do, they all work well for a daily driver. Start reading Bobistheoilguy.com see how much of this is more "hobby" than science…

All just my opin From working for three car manufacturers on the corporate side, and six years overseeing a service department at a dealership.
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Old 07-05-2018, 11:36 AM   #20
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Seriously, any oil that meets the owners manual spec and is put out by a major manufacturer will work fine For a daily driver. Change it on a common sense interval like 5000 miles, or follow the oil minder and ditch that insane 3000 miles change your daddy taught you. (The Track maybe something different).The same with the filters…Unless you get a improperly manufactured filter, which any of them can do, they all work well for a daily driver. Start reading Bobistheoilguy.com see how much of this is more "hobby" than science…
This was for get to know what Camaro06’s fav motor oil. In Lancer Evolution group, many people more pref Amsoil.

Simply It wasnt asking for “what is best oil”. Ive on BIOG for years so im not really new to oil. Who gets boring talk about oil and cars 🙂
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Old 07-05-2018, 11:57 AM   #21
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This is true. I'm not sure if Ultra couldn't meet the standard or they just didn't certify it. My owner's manual just recommends dexos1 for my LGX and doesn't specify gen 1 or gen 2, although it does show the gen 2 logo. Ultra is certainly a good oil, but I'm not going to use it in my new Camaro because it doesn't have the gen 2 certification. I'm not sure how much difference it makes with my LGX. Might be a bigger issue with a turbo I4.
Yeah I am not sure if Ultra wasn't tested or for some reason failed the gen 2.



I don't think using Ultra will be an issue with the LGX or LT1 since they are naturally aspirated and Gen 2 was developed for LPSI which is more prevalent in forced inducted engines. But one less excuse for GM to void my warranty. Which is why I am curious about the new Mobil1 0W-40 ESP now being the factory fill in 2019 for the LT1/LT4. If I stick to 5W-30, will GM still consider that good and respect the warranty still. Hopefully Al answers that in the question about the 0W-40 ESP in the Ask Al section.




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I don' think it's going to be a warranty issue unless GM requires a certain specification and as far as I know they do not. At one time I think GM was recommending a value of 15 psi minimum, but I'm not sure if that's still the case.

Which they do. See this TSB.



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Old 07-05-2018, 12:09 PM   #22
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Yeah there is a WIX filter with a 22 PSI bypass setting at least according to their website. But at the time( March), I couldn't find it anywhere on amazon or auto stores. Just the lower 12 PSI one.
Yeah. If i remember right, the posted (update for filter bypass) was not long ago.
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Old 07-05-2018, 12:15 PM   #23
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I seem to remember the 15 psi recommendation, but didn't remember where it came from so thanks for the reminder.



All TSBs are recommendations, not requirements and as such aren't binding for warranty purposes. That's not to say they can be ignored.
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Old 07-05-2018, 12:21 PM   #24
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I seem to remember the 15 psi recommendation, but didn't remember where it came from so thanks for the reminder.



All TSBs are recommendations, not requirements and as such aren't binding for warranty purposes. That's not to say they can be ignored.

True, but there is this part in the TSB.



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Note: Any aftermarket filter must also have an internal bypass valve opening pressure specification, element integrity, filtration performance, media particle trap specification and burst strength that is equivalent to the ACDelco PF64/PF63E filters.




Bold for emphasis. The use of must sounds like there is a requirement written some where else. If there wasn't the word would be should/highly recommended instead. Maybe it is just GM legal speak to scare anyone into following it, but wouldn't hold up in court if challenged. But I am certainly a less hassle the better type of person. I will stick to using filters that have that 22 PSI setting.
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Old 07-05-2018, 02:03 PM   #25
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True, but there is this part in the TSB.






Bold for emphasis. The use of must sounds like there is a requirement written some where else. If there wasn't the word would be should/highly recommended instead. Maybe it is just GM legal speak to scare anyone into following it, but wouldn't hold up in court if challenged. But I am certainly a less hassle the better type of person. I will stick to using filters that have that 22 PSI setting.

Federal law prohibits vehicle manufacturers from denying warranty claims due to the use of aftermarket parts. They can certainly specify parameters certain parts must comply with in the owner's manual, but trying to deny a warranty claim based on an obscure TSB that's not even intended for the owner audience isn't going to get very far, especially when that particular TSB isn't even listed for the Camaro, at least mine anyway.
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Old 07-05-2018, 02:23 PM   #26
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This is very basic question.

Im fixing to go pick up oil from Wally for my first 500 miles oil change. We all know GM recommended Dexos 1 certified (xW - 20/30).

There are plenty out at local stores. Whats Camaro06 group’s favorite oil/filter company?

For Filter: WIX/NAPA Gold
Oil : I like Castrol but i think im going to try M1 5w30 or ACDelco for SS or Pennzoil? Im waiting “new” M1 0w40 (Dexos) to hit my local store
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Old 07-06-2018, 06:20 PM   #27
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AC DELCO PF64 and either M1 5W-30 or Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30.

I'll probably switch to the Wix WL10290XP once it becomes more common on the shelf/Amazon.

I forget RockAuto is a thing sometimes, they have the Wix WL10290XP on their site for <$7.

Wix WL10290XP is the one rated for 22 PSI bypass.
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Old 07-06-2018, 06:53 PM   #28
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I forget RockAuto is a thing sometimes, they have the Wix WL10290XP on their site for <$7.
Sweet! I will check them out next.
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