[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by kttxz06

Well, honestly, this never stops and unfortunately it does come from the Ford side more often than not. Remember the "supercharged only" GT will gap a Zl1? Or the........with basic mods, you'll run with the Zl1. Now it's the........"stock" but has intake, headers, exhaust, tune, tire, supercharger, but the block is "stock", so it's still stock. That's why my videos get views because I say stock Zl1 hits 803 on the dyno, everyone comes clicking. I use the Ford logic. It is stock............the block is stock.

They're getting even worse now. Now it comes to running a mid to high 11 sec, then running against a faster car that happens to run a slower time, and then proclaiming that they "whooped" that faster car. I can do that too. I once beat an 800 RWHP supercharged S550 Mustang GT in my FBO NA SS. I could leave out the fact that he was on street tires and ran a 13 flat to my 12.9. I could also leave out the fact that his MPH was over 130 to my 113. But that would be honest. Or I could just say I whooped an 800 RWHP S550 GT in my FBO NA SS!!

[FastCarFanBoy]

Originally Posted by kttxz06

Well, honestly, this never stops and unfortunately it does come from the Ford side more often than not. Remember the "supercharged only" GT will gap a Zl1? Or the........with basic mods, you'll run with the Zl1. Now it's the........"stock" but has intake, headers, exhaust, tune, tire, supercharger, but the block is "stock", so it's still stock. That's why my videos get views because I say stock Zl1 hits 803 on the dyno, everyone comes clicking. I use the Ford logic. It is stock............the block is stock.

No, it would require half shafts , drag wheels and 91 octane.

[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by whiteboyblues2001

Well, I'm glad he's okay. I was worried he might have killed himself after the 6th Gen Camaro came out, and his "insider information" turned out to be just his overactive imagination. Did he ever settle his bet about the Camaro weight?

No clue..

I know what little "cred" he had was blown straight to hell when he claimed that the ZL1 absolutely positively would need an AC delete

[hotlap]

Gentlemen. Here is to a future where stock gen7 SSes and GT's run 11s.
Good times. No one loses.

[FastCarFanBoy]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

The engine itself does not make enough to outrun the Camaro. Thats why the manual is slower than the SS. The artificial torque of the a10, shift speed, minimal rpm drop and even more aggressive rear gear on top of more aggressive trans gears make up for it

According to an engineer at Watson racing in Detroit a large batch of 2018s do in fact have a major valve train issue. I’m sure it will be worked out. He wouldn’t tell me specifics but he mentioned it. Honest to god truth

it may be trickier to launch, but trap speed shows its pulling and the fact that its makes up ground on the back half says it should pull from a roll..without "artificial torque"

[FastCarFanBoy]

Originally Posted by hotlap

Gentlemen. Here is to a future where stock gen7 SSes and GT's run 11s.
Good times. No one loses.

I lose , because then I start thinking of trading in my perfectly good paid off car on a new model.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

it may be trickier to launch, but trap speed shows its pulling and the fact that its makes up ground on the back half says it should pull from a roll..without "artificial torque"

It had no trap advantage when tested same day m6 vs m6

A slower launch will also inflate trap. But then again I don’t see how the gt can be harder to launch compared to an SS. The torque hit right off the bat makes it very tough

The 5.0 has always benefited/required much more gear than it’s Camaro counterpart due to the way they make power and lack of torque

And remember this is fords latest and greatest vs an engine that was being put into corvettes 5 years ago. I’d say it ls doing well

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

They're getting even worse now. Now it comes to running a mid to high 11 sec, then running against a faster car that happens to run a slower time, and then proclaiming that they "whooped" that faster car. I can do that too. I once beat an 800 RWHP supercharged S550 Mustang GT in my FBO NA SS. I could leave out the fact that he was on street tires and ran a 13 flat to my 12.9. I could also leave out the fact that his MPH was over 130 to my 113. But that would be honest. Or I could just say I whooped an 800 RWHP S550 GT in my FBO NA SS!!

Like I have mentioned on here before, when I had my 04 GT, i smoked a couple of 04/05 GTO's one day at the track. Was it because my car was quicker, HELL NO lol. It was because the guys in the goats needed teh driver mod bad. Whenever I beat a "faster" car or a car I knew should be faster I always said that they had to have messed something up. Guess that type of honesty is gone.

Originally Posted by hotlap

Gentlemen. Here is to a future where stock gen7 SSes and GT's run 11s.
Good times. No one loses.

[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by shaffe

Like I have mentioned on here before, when I had my 04 GT, i smoked a couple of 04/05 GTO's one day at the track. Was it because my car was quicker, HELL NO lol. It was because the guys in the goats needed teh driver mod bad. Whenever I beat a "faster" car or a car I knew should be faster I always said that they had to have messed something up. Guess that type of honesty is gone.

Yep..

I once saw a 2010 R/T Challenger (auto) with just a CAI on street tires obliterate a 450 HP 347 stroker 65 Mustang...

Now mind you, the Mustang is about 1,000 lbs lighter and up on power..so obviously the Challenger beat the driver, not the car.

People need to be honest when they screw up a run..it's okay to have a night/day in the barrel punching walls.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by shaffe

Like I have mentioned on here before, when I had my 04 GT, i smoked a couple of 04/05 GTO's one day at the track. Was it because my car was quicker, HELL NO lol. It was because the guys in the goats needed teh driver mod bad. Whenever I beat a "faster" car or a car I knew should be faster I always said that they had to have messed something up. Guess that type of honesty is gone.

I had a similar experience in my 03 GT. But I, and you, neither of us claimed we could actually beat faster cars. These guys in these videos are wording it in a way to make them look better than they are. And I could give them a pass if they at least acknowledged certain things in the video description. Like, perhaps they used the headline to get attention and then gave a full description. I can respect that. But to outright mislead people intentionally, which is what they're doing, I have no respect for that. They got people in the comments in this and other videos actually believing that the GT is the competitor to the Hellcat and Z06.

[Steph93lx]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

The engine itself does not make enough to outrun the Camaro. Thats why the manual is slower than the SS. The artificial torque of the a10, shift speed, minimal rpm drop and even more aggressive rear gear on top of more aggressive trans gears make up for it

According to an engineer at Watson racing in Detroit a large batch of 2018s do in fact have a major valve train issue. I’m sure it will be worked out. He wouldn’t tell me specifics but he mentioned it. Honest to god truth

One of the reason the 2018 Manuel are slower other of the obviously great A10 even coupling with a 3.15 gear is because the Genius at Ford decide to change to a less agressive gearing in the first 4 gear on the 2018.
The gearing on the 2011-2017 m6 was perfect for the Mustang coyote. A short gearing for a heavy car with a relatively small high reving displacement engine.

At the same time they suposely put better synchros but it seam like the forch are weaker! Great job Ford!!!

Then a zr1 slower than a black mamba come on !!!. But in the same categories of joke a black mamba full equiped pp1 heavy weight with only a e85 tune and drag radial vs snow e85 tune , cai, drag pack, ported tb, ported intake, long tube headers, rear gear, weight reduction and icing on the cake aftermarket converter please !!!
The only way snow can loose it's if he having a mechanical failure lol.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by Steph93lx

One of the reason the 2018 Manuel are slower other of the obviously great A10 even coupling with a 3.15 gear is because the Genius at Ford decide to change to a less agressive gearing in the first 4 gear on the 2018.
The gearing on the 2011-2017 m6 was perfect for the Mustang coyote. A short gearing for a heavy car with a relatively small high reving displacement engine.

At the same time they suposely put better synchros but it seam like the forch are weaker! Great job Ford!!!

Then a zr1 slower than a black mamba come on !!!. But in the same categories of joke a black mamba full equiped pp1 heavy weight with only a e85 tune and drag radial vs snow e85 tune , cai, drag pack, ported tb, ported intake, long tube headers, rear gear, weight reduction and icing on the cake aftermarket converter please !!!
The only way snow can loose it's if he having a mechanical failure lol.

Mamba has e85, cai, x pipe, suspension mods and pulls his seats. Try to be honest man lol. I know its hard for you guys. Im not impressed with 7.6@93.

Snow also ran 10s without converter and full stock exhaust. Hes been faster than mamba every step of the way.

Of course he will lose...that's the whole point. to call the bullshit. the claims he makes are BS. such as portraying a gt to be faster than a zr1. A lowly SS will be nothing for him

[Steph93lx]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Mamba has e85, cai, x pipe, suspension mods and pulls his seats. Try to be honest man lol. I know its hard for you guys. Im not impressed with 7.6@93.

Snow also ran 10s without converter and full stock exhaust. Hes been faster than mamba every step of the way.

Of course he will lose...that's the whole point. to call the bullshit. the claims he makes are BS. such as portraying a gt to be faster than a zr1. A lowly SS will be nothing for him

I wasn't aware of the seat removed for the black mamba!
X pipe = 0 gain on the 2018 unless he removed is converter.
Suspension mod= spring?

You seem to follow the black mamba more than me lol.

As far as honesty that's always make me laugh! Were is your aluminum driveshaft in your sign lol. I have EVEYTHING in my sign you don't.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by Steph93lx

I wasn't aware of the seat removed for the black mamba!
X pipe = 0 gain on the 2018 unless he removed is converter.
Suspension mod= spring?

You seem to follow the black mamba more than me lol.

As far as honesty that's always make me laugh! Were is your aluminum driveshaft in your sign lol. I have EVEYTHING in my sign you don't.

Im sure you do lol

Its zero gain. its actually heavier than stock. So why would I list it? you say its ok for the mamba right? His x pipe also deletes resonators. So at the least it removes weight

he has stop the hop kit. it includes bushings at least don't know all details.

I also forgot to mention snow also went 10s on a 20 inch drag radial. Stock exhaust, no drag pack, no converter, stock suspension, ported stock mani, 20 inch wheel