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Old 05-20-2018, 04:52 PM   #1
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Fuel systems required to run full e85

What all systems are needed to run full e85 ? My buddy swears by skidmark garage and they have the flex fuel sensor for 200$ and the lowside side auxiliary system for 600$. Apparently it's the same stuff as dsx just proceed lower. I'm new to Chevy and camaros and I didn't need all this to get to that kinda power on my Stang so just curious if this works and is the low side what I need. I remember reading stuff on high side pumps so I'm just confused.

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Old 05-20-2018, 05:07 PM   #2
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Know that you'll need larger injectors and a tune at a minimum. The cheapest I'd go is DSX and 850's.
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Old 05-20-2018, 05:37 PM   #3
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Know that you'll need larger injectors and a tune at a minimum. The cheapest I'd go is DSX and 850's.
You need the flex fuel sensor and a tune, and a low side pump, you don’t need injectors.
There really is no advantage from running E85-E50, so you could run without a low side pump to get started.
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Old 05-20-2018, 05:59 PM   #4
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Know that you'll need larger injectors and a tune at a minimum. The cheapest I'd go is DSX and 850's.
This is a DI LT4 not the LSA.
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Old 05-20-2018, 07:48 PM   #5
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You need the flex fuel sensor and a tune, and a low side pump, you don’t need injectors.
There really is no advantage from running E85-E50, so you could run without a low side pump to get started.
I was told you can't run full e85 with just the flex tune.

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Old 05-20-2018, 07:53 PM   #6
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I was told you can't run full e85 with just the flex tune.

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You can’t you need a aux pump too, i have the DSX Pump and it’s awesome. But based on our experience, your not going to gain anything from running full E85 over say E60. So keep that in mind before you spend a ton of money.
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Old 05-20-2018, 08:38 PM   #7
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I’d be careful of anyone claiming something is the same, because that’s 100% not true.

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Old 05-21-2018, 11:05 AM   #8
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I agreed , buddy just swears by them.
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I’d be careful of anyone claiming something is the same, because that’s 100% not true.
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Old 05-21-2018, 11:24 AM   #9
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I've seen SMG's fuel solution and its very well done. Nothing cheap about it other than an attractive price.
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Old 05-21-2018, 11:51 AM   #10
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You need the flex fuel sensor and a tune, and a low side pump, you don’t need injectors.
There really is no advantage from running E85-E50, so you could run without a low side pump to get started.
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This is a DI LT4 not the LSA.
My snafu. Bounced between gen 5 and 6.
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Old 05-21-2018, 03:15 PM   #11
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I’d be careful of anyone claiming something is the same, because that’s 100% not true.
lol you keep saying that yet seems more and more people are buying the more affordable alternatives, which have proven to be just as good as what you tend to say is "premium". Been on FB lately? anytime anyone brings up this topic 10:1 people say Skid Mark... wonder why?

Was just gonna tag him here, but I see they banned him from this page... wonder why? seems likely because he doesn't pay for sponsorship, bet that's why he's able to offer a great product for less.

just recently had a friend run your aux pump system on his 6th gen and guess what happened? the damn thing worked at 4psi, but shut off as soon as boost passed 9psi.... darnedest thing, was baffling the shop that installed it. Know what fixed it? One of SMG's wiring harnesses... wired right up, and didn't skip a beat...
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Old 05-21-2018, 03:45 PM   #12
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just recently had a friend run your aux pump system on his 6th gen and guess what happened? the damn thing worked at 4psi, but shut off as soon as boost passed 9psi.... darnedest thing, was baffling the shop that installed it.
That same exact thing happened recently at a very reputable shop in Texas.
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Old 05-21-2018, 06:21 PM   #13
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I added weapon x low side system and flex fuel sensor. And without swamping the engine(going over 7ml sec on injectors ) I could not run over E40. You need to put a cam in to address your high side. Under load you will lose pressure in your fuel rail and injectors will go crazy and the only way to address high side is to change lobe on cam shaft. But stock injectors will be fine with full e85 on the 6thgen LT4
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Old 05-22-2018, 10:39 AM   #14
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I'm basing that your be doing headers and an intake (personally if your on a budget cut the factory bottom stock box out)

If you don't swap pulleys you should be able to run e85 manage about 610 to 640 depending on the dyno with headers and intake. Some say there is room for a pulley which leads to next statement.

if you change pulleys upper or lower you will be mixing e85 w 93 or possibly supplementing with meth injection..

running upper or lower and or a combination of the 2 will require a cam swap w a 32 - 38% fuel lobe needed to make up for the 30% more fuel required to run full e85 most likely a dsx or a intank pump will be needed as well.

If you do the cam and stay on 93 with pulleys, headers, and intake you should be at 730 to 770 range depending on the dyno. a lot people i have talked to have been happy with those numbers, that level is like 850 in a 5th gen. given the weight and better traction of the 6 gens.
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