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Full Build
Just got my 6th Gen months ago and instead of doing parts, I want a full build and all the parts installed at once. I'm asking for any of these trusty companies such as Jennety or whichever salesman wants to converse with me about choosing my correct build. I will put a list of things I am looking for:
Boost: Very minimal / Daily Driveable All components and accessories to handle boost such as intercoolers, etc Ported Intake? All other accessories such as CAI, Ported Intakes, we can discuss through PM or phone whichever. Please Contact me on here or just simply reply to the thread. Which supercharger/company is pretty much my question. I want a good daily driver that's not too expensive |
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All superchargers will cost $5-7k.
You could just get the Jannetty super streetbrawler package.
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Jannetty's street brawler pkg is a great option, but for your stated goals, it seems that an off the shelf intercooler Maggie setup with professional tuning is all you need.
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2016 Hyper Blue 2SS/6m/MRC/NPP/Silver Rally stripes/ZL1 wheels & brakes/GForce DS and axles/ZLE Cradle Bushings/FE4 ARB front & rear/SEMA Grill/Rotofab dry/95mm TB/Magnuson 2300/Full LT4 fuel system/JMS boost-a-pump/E85 Sensor/Ported CID heads from LME/Cammotion PD cam/Thompson Motorsports forged shortblock/catted Kooks 1 7/8 headers /JRE remote tuned |
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If u buy from Jannetty, he with throw in the tuning for free. I just installed my Maggie kit a week or so back. Going to start working with Ted on the remote tuning shortly.
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2016 Hyper Blue 2SS/6m/MRC/NPP/Silver Rally stripes/ZL1 wheels & brakes/GForce DS and axles/ZLE Cradle Bushings/FE4 ARB front & rear/SEMA Grill/Rotofab dry/95mm TB/Magnuson 2300/Full LT4 fuel system/JMS boost-a-pump/E85 Sensor/Ported CID heads from LME/Cammotion PD cam/Thompson Motorsports forged shortblock/catted Kooks 1 7/8 headers /JRE remote tuned |
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I'll be the non bias blue collar, non team member responder to your thread since a few will eventually chime in on here for the Magneson train without explaining that one with an intercooler all starts at atleast $7200 alone.
There's many options you can go with. Procharger makes good kits for daily street use and drivability. If you don't plan to upgrade and want the bare minimum you could go with a P1SC HO tuner kit since you plan to have it all installed and tuned by a tuner you won't need the kit with the programmer, which saves money. If you want a better version of that kit with room to add later down the line then order the Stage II kit with bigger intercooler, you can do a race bypass valve for that aggressive air blow off people love, etc. You could even go the naturally aspirated route and spend about the same. Either way I have read great results from Pray with his ported intake manifolds and throttle bodies, and you could still have that done whether you go FI or NA. At least if you are content with what you want, which is reasonable, you won't run into the extensive cost of fuel system upgrades we all hit when we want more boost or power. I just wanted to give my two pennies because when everyone else told me to throw a $7400 Magneson on my car, I went procharger with good upgrades and spent almost $2k less which was more money in my pocket for other mods. Now, if money wasn't an option Hellion makes a twin turbo kit for our cars for $9k, not sure on the daily driver aspect of it because I don't come across any post with anyone having the kit. |
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I have the ECS kit. Drives like stock and makes 700rwhp when you floor it
If you are going forced induction, don't waste your money on porting things, unless you are a serious racer trying to eek out every last HP. You will be forcing air into the engine, so no need to port. My intake, throttle body, and heads are all stock.
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Post the links to these kits your speaking of if you could, 5000$ range is what i'm looking to spend. I just don't want to make a wrong decision, also if anyone from one of the these supercharger companies want to consult with my through PM about my final goal build please do!
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Just a heads-up, the guy who is claiming 700hp from the ECS kit has a built engine, fuel upgrades, and a methanol injection system, not just putting a basic kit on a stock motor like you are asking about OP. I personally bought the ECS kit and mine on a stock motor was around 480hp. Big disappointment in other words, plus their customer service sucked after I got the kit, they would not call me back or reply to email.
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![]() ![]() “Non-biased...blue collar”...could also add, “experience with one setup”. I have had two Prochargers, 1 Vortech, 2 twin Turbos, 2 head and cam cars and now a Magnuson. I am not biased in the least, but also have experience with several different setups. The Procharger is a great choice. At the same power level, will get smoked by a Maggie or LT4 blower (take off from ZL1) unless you also add a converter (on A8) or gears on a M6 because simply put the auto will not be in the powerband with blower alone. However, it will make impressive peak HP numbers if you are cruising around and just want to brag about a number. I know because I did this and was getting smoked by my Mustang buddies until adding gears and a converter (corvettes). The low cost of entry is attractive, but also doesn’t perform at the same level. So, the 550whp Procharger with stock trans with get smoked by the stock Magnuson with 550whp. Same is true of Vortech which will perform just like the Procharger (and is another good low cost option that will be slower without the right accompanying mods). if you go with the Procharger, or Vortech, just know in stock form the “great deal” also means you are simply slower than either a Magnuson or an LT4 blower. If you don’t believe me, go to the track and see for yourself. The cheapest path is probably to go with one of the LT4 blowers only because they are smaller and less capable, but if you aren’t going big, it really won’t matter. With this blower you don’t need a converter or gears because the torque is instant. Because the LT1 is a higher compression motor, you will have more power than a ZL1 and be lighter. Best bang for your buck but less upside. Can’t argue with that setup and damn, some of the tuners on this forum have put together some great packages. The reason people on this forum, like me, prefer the Magnuson is only because it’s a better blower with more upside than the LT4 and it doesn’t have to work as hard to run the same boost levels. If you want to go big later, no problem (guys are running 1000hp with the smaller version of the Maggie)...no need to upgrade the blower or change to a different version. Further, they are building a great reputation because of their support (and the support of great tuners)...Plus, no lag. Instant power. For the same price and arguably lower cost than a blower, you could add a head and cam package and stay NA. It will sound mean as hell with great performance. I have had the head/cam packages and absolutely love the lope. It doesn’t have the same normal drivability features of the blower...but it is a cheaper way to go fast. The other downside to think about is, with a head and cam package you are getting inside of your motor...that always seems to add a degree of risk...so make sure you know and trust the wrench. My advice is, find the tuner you trust and take their recommendation...go with the setup they are most comfortable or familiar with and have experience tuning. There is nothing more frustrating than getting a nice blower or head and cam package and dealing with BS of a tuner who really isn’t familiar with the setup... Just an unbiased view from a non-team member who also happens to have experience running different setups...
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Magnuson Heartbeat SC - Tuned by JRE Racing 776whp/745wtq (12psi) 2018 Corvette Z06 vert- Black To be tuned by JRE Racing TBD performance Last edited by Drsagacity; 05-12-2018 at 05:36 PM. |
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So be honest, did you receive a discount on your Magnuson?
The OP on this post clearly stated he was on a budget, and nothing about PI setup that runs $7400 (for those not being given the hook up like a lot of us) seems reasonable, especially when you factor in the cost he's going to pay to have it installed, and possibly tuned if he doesn't get a canned tune. We could go on for days on variables on why one would throw down lower ET's, or better dyno numbers, whether its weather, altitude, DA, dyno, or one of the biggest key factors being the tuner that tunes it. We agree on this, right? I also mentioned a lot of people go N/A for close to the same price and get great results, right? I don't think there is a wrong choice on our cars, just a personal choice, and the OP said within a budget that something you stand behind doesn't fall into, plain and simple. BTW, how many of those previous builds that you had did you get your hands dirty on? Just curious. |
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As far as price, sure there are always deals available.
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Magnuson Heartbeat SC - Tuned by JRE Racing 776whp/745wtq (12psi) 2018 Corvette Z06 vert- Black To be tuned by JRE Racing TBD performance Last edited by Drsagacity; 05-12-2018 at 08:05 PM. |
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with street tires I hardly doubt one will smoke another. It is a driver's race. slicks and a tacky track, maybe but with 275 PS4s any combo of blower or NA full build will be traction limited to 75 MPH+ So the Maggie torque is more of a bragging bit, fun yes but it ain't hitting the ground on the street.
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