04-25-2018, 11:13 AM | #57 | |
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I just don't see a lower HP Camaro being faster than the ZLE. I know the 5th Gen Z/28 was faster than the 5th gen ZL1 but I just don't see it happening this go around. Maybe I am putting the ZLE to high on the pedestal lol |
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04-25-2018, 11:48 AM | #59 |
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Yes I know that, I even stated that the 5th gen did.
Here is the thing though, the ZLE basically already has all of the go fast goodies like DSSV, aero, tires, etc that a Z/28 would have. The 5th gen ZL1 didn't have that benefit. What some people are suggesting is that if you give a ZLE less power and less weight it will go faster and I just don't see it happening that way. Maybe faster than a standard ZL1, but IMO the ZLE has set the bar pretty damn high |
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IMO A Z/28 with a DCT and a 5.5L DOHC (Hope for a 7.0L) spinning at 8,000RPM with light weight brakes and Carbon Ceramic rimes will run faster then the ZL1LE at the ring, its not a 1/4 Mi race, its a road race.
PS all you will need is 560-600HP like to see more we all do. |
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I mention fuel efficiency because the LT4 is a gas guzzler and more MPG=more track time. |
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They could easily make the Z/28 faster than the ZL1 1LE. The problem is that they can’t produce such a car because it would compete with the Corvette. That’s a big reason why we’re seeing the Corvette go mid-engine. If a Z/28 were to happen this generation, I believe it would enter production next September/fall as a 2020 model. That aligns with C8 production.
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Here is the thing, GM can take their 6.2L motor with the head and cam package and make that 540BHP on a lighter and more compact design then a DOHC head on an LT1 engine can pull off making it the superior choice for track use. |
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It’s where Zora Duntov wanted to take the car over 50 years ago, but GM either didn’t listen, didn’t care, or didn’t have the resources/money every time it was brought up. GM is a business, and it seems good for business to shift the Corvette to a mid-engine layout. The Corvette engineers are happy, the Camaro engineers are happy, and the consumers are happy. However, they did start mid-engine development before the bankruptcy, so I guess the Camaro wasn’t that big of a factor at that point. No matter what, the Camaro will improve greatly with the next generation thanks to the C8 Corvette.
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The original LT5 was designed 30 years ago, and technology has changed vastly since then. GM said that Cadillac’s new Twin-Turbo V8 is lighter than the LT4, so a similar engine without the turbochargers and added cooling should be lighter than the LT4. The DOHC engines will be smoother, more efficient, and higher revving than the LT1. A heads/cam package LT1 chugs a lot of fuel, from what I understand, and it would never feel as smooth as a DOHC V8. I want that heads/cam LT1 in a Z/28, not a Stingray. |
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