[Nsxmatt]

Originally Posted by soloknight6

Re read my post... show me where I said you could get an SS for 22k..

I paid $22k for my brand new RS. Is this that complicated or do I need to write it in crayon?

[soloknight6]

Originally Posted by Nsxmatt

You’re assuming I’m talking about everybody. Reading is your friend.

Careful Matt. You’re projecting. You having wet dreams about an SS?
You need to relax kid, you were pretty broad in generalizing SS owners drowning financially over their cars.

And it looks like you scored a deal on your RS. So congrats to you.

[Nsxmatt]

Originally Posted by soloknight6

Careful Matt. You’re projecting. You having wet dreams about an SS?
You need to relax kid, you were pretty broad in generalizing SS owners drowning financially over their cars.

And it looks like you scored a deal on your RS. So congrats to you.

Oh, you’re a kid in debt. The wording proves it. I’m done with you.

[soloknight6]

Originally Posted by Nsxmatt

Oh, you’re a kid in debt. The wording proves it. I’m done with you.

Don’t dish it if you can’t take it Matt.

[srcstc]

Originally Posted by Nsxmatt

I’m quite sure there are a lot of SS owners up to their eyeballs in debt with a $800 a month payment and a maxed out credit card for mods wishing they would have got the V6. But you won’t hear them admit it on here.

If that makes you feel better about your decision fine.


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[IMadeYouReadThis]

Originally Posted by Glen e

OK here's one. I owned a 2014 C7, a 2013 SS V8, and bought a 2016 Camaro V6. Why? because it's a DD, and I don't need the horsepower, or the premium gas, or the break neck acceleration, A v6 just does fine. I've never regretted the decision.

Same here man I'm loving saving the gas mileage the car sounds fantastic and it's quite fast for what it is.

There's no downside to owning the V6 this gen. And the bottom line is the V8 is not worth an extra $10,000.

And that's how much it would have cost new for me an extra 10K to get the extra two cylinders to knock one second off of 0 to 60.

to each their own. But I love my V6

[IMadeYouReadThis]

Originally Posted by srcstc

If that makes you feel better about your decision fine.


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What's it to you what his decision to buy was. Are you some kind of Fast and the Furious Vin Diesel Street racer that's just one bad ass mother f***** that needs to come here and s*** on guys because they have a V6.

The V6 is good man real good if you can't handle that that's on you

[SecondZ28]

I don't understand how the term "sports car" keeps getting thrown around? Just because it's a V6?

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

It also largely depends on which GTP model he's talking about. The base model was 200 HP but the supercharged model could be had stock between 265 and 303 Horses and with mods they were quite a force to reckon even for V8's.

The blown 3.8 was only rated at 240 hp, the 303 hp models had the LS4 V8

[Zack46]

Originally Posted by Nsxmatt

I paid $22k for my brand new RS. Is this that complicated or do I need to write it in crayon?

[srcstc]

Originally Posted by Zack46

It's possible back when they had the red tag sale. I got my 2SS for $34k. MSRP was almost 46k.


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[cooper1965]

Originally Posted by Nsxmatt

I paid $22k for my brand new RS. Is this that complicated or do I need to write it in crayon?

You paid too much. Should have bought the 2.0T. Got mine for 20k.
Twice the potential in my opinion. If you got cash to mod that is..

[IMadeYouReadThis]

Originally Posted by cooper1965

You paid too much. Should have bought the 2.0T. Got mine for 20k.
Twice the potential in my opinion. If you got cash to mod that is..

that's a good deal man. and that's another cool engine. That's the nice thing with Camaro this gen it's got an engine for everybody. I like the V6 better than the turbo 4. but it's personal preference

[DevilsReject97]

Originally Posted by Nsxmatt

I’m quite sure there are a lot of SS owners up to their eyeballs in debt with a $800 a month payment and a maxed out credit card for mods wishing they would have got the V6. But you won’t hear them admit it on here.

And I'm sure there are plenty of people who had to buy a used car with a $800 payment and a maxed out credit card for mods for their V6 too. In fact, I actually knew someone who was paying over $600 a month for a 2012 V6 LS Camaro.

There are going to be plenty of people who may have buyer's regret....about a great deal of things. There are also going to be plenty of people who are simply stupid about making the correct choices, be it a car, a house, or over indulging on stupid mods...

Originally Posted by IMadeYouReadThis

There's no downside to owning the V6 this gen. And the bottom line is the V8 is not worth an extra $10,000.

And that's how much it would have cost new for me an extra 10K to get the extra two cylinders to knock one second off of 0 to 60.

No one (at least that I'm aware of) has said there was a down side to owning the V6. It's a fun little car for what it is. You think the V8 isn't worth an extra 10k, and there's also nothing wrong with that. That is no different than someone passing on granite counter tops or not wanting the sunroof in a car. Your preference isn't the V8, congrats to you.

However, my preference is. If I want something to drive that's economical, I'll buy a Honda...

Originally Posted by SecondZ28

I don't understand how the term "sports car" keeps getting thrown around? Just because it's a V6?

Because a vast majority of the sports car world is filled by V6 and/or inline 6 motors. There are also some turbo'd 4's and V8's...and given that it outperforms or comes close to the performance of many of those cars (including the V8's) It is a fair statement to at least include it in the discussion as a sports car.

Originally Posted by SecondZ28

The blown 3.8 was only rated at 240 hp, the 303 hp models had the LS4 V8

The first gen GTP's were 240hp....the 2nd gen cars, which mine was, had 260hp stock.

[autocross]

Originally Posted by Rayfield

Yeah, my last turbo 4 was a fairly-modified WRX wagon, putting 320 torque to the wheels. It was a blast, handled well, could do family duty well, was basically a "swiss army knife" of a car. Honestly, I miss it.



We'll part ways on that one..the sound my 6.2 liter makes is intoxicating, the way the rumble of my completely-decatted boxer in the WRX was. And it is both a muscle car and a sports car. Such a great chassis.

It's all good, as said, the V6 Gen6 is a fine sports car, and I get why people would buy it. The V6 Camaro's from my formative years sucked..what we have now is so much more.

How did you like the WRX? I was considering it, but I figured the Alpha platform would totally smoke it.

Originally Posted by Norm Peterson

I'm going to push back a little here. "Stance" seems to have become code for "conforming to a appearance conventions selected by others for appearance sake alone". No matter if it's completely contrary to what you'd do purely for performance, it's what you gotta do or else you're gonna be the outsider looking in. But that rules out creativity and gets in the way of actually making things function better, so it's pretty much the antithesis of a sports car in my book. When I see that term used to describe something in the 'Pro-Touring' world, the first thought to cross my mind is "good grief, another wanna-be <facepalm>".

I suspect that the 'handling' side of your perspective is closer to the English perspective of 50 - 60 years ago, where the roads were mostly not straight and where nimbleness as a car characteristic was prized. Most US domestic enthusiasts tend to see this from the other direction, where nimbleness traditionally wasn't given much value (and certainly not when compared with the appeal of big engine displacements/big power/roaring exhausts/screeching tires). It's still an uphill battle.

FWIW I'd pick the smooth wail of a free-revving V6 over all of those sounds associated with a turbocharger every single time. Even, I think, over the mildly choppy rumble of a crossplane V8, now that that sound has become the hallmark of lifted pickups. Over a proper flat-plane crank V8, probably not - but you should realize that 'proper' excludes the current GT350's Voodoo unless maybe you're running it with true 4 into 1 headers.

In case you're wondering, I actually did live through the muscle car era (possibly all of it so far). I knew a couple of sports car race drivers back in the mid-1960's, so I think it might be more a mindset thing than generational to pick lightness and balance over bulk and brute power.


Norm

Ahh, I see. All the roads on the island i live (hawaii) are twisty. I guess if you do a subtle camber for performance it’s alright, but when you’re tires are super crooked you’ve gone too far. You’re basically saying as long as it’s not aesthetic?

Originally Posted by IMadeYouReadThis

What's it to you what his decision to buy was. Are you some kind of Fast and the Furious Vin Diesel Street racer that's just one bad ass mother f***** that needs to come here and s*** on guys because they have a V6.

The V6 is good man real good if you can't handle that that's on you

I think he just can’t handle the fact that technology has come a long way. Instead of accepting it, he’s hiding from it.

Originally Posted by SecondZ28

I don't understand how the term "sports car" keeps getting thrown around? Just because it's a V6?



The blown 3.8 was only rated at 240 hp, the 303 hp models had the LS4 V8

I keep using the term sports car. When it can put down almost 1G on the skid pad, and only weighs 3400ish pounds, what else would it be? Those are seriously incredible numbers. Plus, the V6 has no extra muscle. It’s all useable and balanced. When the 370Z is considered an entry level sports car, then I consider a V6 camaro one because it beats it in almost every aspect.