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Old 04-20-2018, 02:40 PM   #71
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I would be happy with a nice aero roof rack that could hold 4 tires.
can you not fit another set of wheels and tires in the car/ one in the trunk?
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Old 04-20-2018, 04:29 PM   #72
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When are we getting a convertible 1LE?
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Old 04-20-2018, 09:11 PM   #73
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You made some good points but this one part always bothers me when I see it brought up. I think this notion is completely wrong, I actually think broadening the "1LE Brand" is awesome, and in my mind the only thing that makes the 1LE "special" is exactly what it is, suspension/handling upgrades that contribute to an amazing track car.

I'm all for more 1LEs personally..... BUT as others have said the whole "why not auto/A10 1LE" I fundamentally disagree with.... being manual only is part of what makes the 1LE special so it needs to stay that way!
Oh, I apologize for the confusion, the way I said that wasn't clear. I meant that as tongue in cheek towards those that say that, not that I personally felt that way. I'm glad that more people are enjoying the 1LE package across more models with the 6th gen.
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Old 04-21-2018, 06:18 AM   #74
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I don't understand this outcry for an "Automatic 1LE". Granted, my knowledge base is more informed on the 5th gens (which I own) vs the newer 6th gens, but I imagine the differences are still similar. In the 5th gens, the 1LE was only available on SS cars, and it got you upgraded suspension and a different variant manual transmission than what came on a "regular" manual SS car. However, they offered the "1LE Suspension package" upgrade for automatic SS cars.

The different manual transmission variant and different gearing was what made the actual "1LE" cars a 1LE. An Automatic one would be a suspension upgrade only. So, what is it then that makes people say there ought to be one? It is a manual car marketed to those who prefer a standard transmission. I love taking mine up in the mountains on winding roads and driving it there, it really shines in an environment like that.

You 6th gen guys have 1LE everything. LT, SS and ZL1 1LE's, and now I hear there is even a 4 cylinder Turbo version? Chevrolet is catering to every market segment with the performance package. One might say it kinda cheapens what made a 1LE special to begin with, but now everyone can say they have a 1LE.

If you prefer Auto, then 1LE just isn't for you, and frankly, wouldn't make much sense anyway when there is a suspension upgrade option available for the auto cars already that is essentially what you are saying you want.

Basically you're just jealous of a vinyl hood wrap and the ability to say you have a 1LE? I don't get it. Auto Camaro any model + suspension upgrade kit exists already, so what exactly is it that you aren't getting? Or does that combo not exist on the 6th gens?
What is special about the 1LE is the suspension package, tires, wheels, brakes and the rear differential, not the vinyl on the hood, who cares about the black vinyl, even some owners take it off because they dislike it. Manual transmission is not what makes this car special is the handling on the curves. Even that I prefer manual transmission, most exotic euros are automatic transmission, because they are faster at the track. Yes manual give you a more involved experience, that's it.
But we have to learn to respect other people opinion and remove your fan boy T shirts. There are people who are handicap and also want to enjoy a great handling car, other want that their significant other enjoys also their car or live on a heavy traffic place or just want to have it automatic, that's it.
For the one that mentioned that the ZL1 1 LE was faster thant the automatic ZL1. Again, you are wrong, is not the transmission that make it faster on the track, is the suspension, tires, brakes and the aerodynamics of the car. Plain and simple. If more 1LE cars are sold by GM the better chance is that the 1LE continues in the market place, that's way now is on 6 cyls. and 4 cyl. consfiguration, so everybody can have their cake and eat it. If you enjoy your manual transmission it's fine just enjoy it but leave others to have their own dreams come thru.
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Old 04-21-2018, 06:36 AM   #75
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I keep seeing this crap posted that a 1LE is only supposed to have a stick shift available. The original 1LE was the 3rd Gen Camaro, and the original 1LE was made with both stick shift and automatic transmissions. So it was not the transmission that made the 1LE special.
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Old 04-21-2018, 06:38 AM   #76
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Yeah, to be perfectly honest, I don't understand the snobby disposition towards a 1LE coming with an automatic. Yes, I thoroughly enjoy the manual transmission in my 1LE but, when I had my 2016 2SS A8, I wholeheartedly understood how effective that transmission could be. Having an A10 available in a track focused Camaro 1LE is not at all a bad look--especially if the transmission is on point, too.
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Old 04-21-2018, 07:10 AM   #77
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Because we all known the ZL1 with the A10 sucked on the Nürburgring....
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Old 04-21-2018, 07:13 AM   #78
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Who cares if the 1LE comes in an automatic, I would only be mad if you couldn't get it in a manual.
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Old 04-21-2018, 08:07 AM   #79
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If the Camaro 1LE was a model instead of a option there may be a reason for an automatic ,but where it is now there is no reason,especially in its price range . Chevy can't make a ZL1 or a Corvette ZR1 in manual only, they would lose probably 80% of there market because they don't know how to use a stick shiftl. Cars in that price have to have an automatic ,just look at how many more Ferraris and Lamborghinis are sold now over the manual years . Just because technology has caught up to the automatic trans it will never make it a better driving experience for the ones who actually want to be more involved in a huge part of the driving experience.
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Because we all known the ZL1 with the A10 sucked on the Nürburgring....
Again put the same tires, suspension, lower weight and aerodynamics to the A10 ZL1 and I assure the results will be very different.
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Old 04-21-2018, 08:20 AM   #81
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If the Camaro 1LE was a model instead of a option there may be a reason for an automatic ,but where it is now there is no reason,especially in its price range . Chevy can't make a ZL1 or a Corvette ZR1 in manual only, they would lose probably 80% of there market because they don't know how to use a stick shiftl. Cars in that price have to have an automatic ,just look at how many more Ferraris and Lamborghinis are sold now over the manual years . Just because technology has caught up to the automatic trans it will never make it a better driving experience for the ones who actually want to be more involved in a huge part of the driving experience.
I don't believe it's people don't know how to use a stick shift, it's the fact it's easier and faster because the technology has caught up. It wasn't too long ago to have the fastest car on the strip or the track it had to be a manual. Street cars and race cars. Now all the high end machines on and off the track use a version of an automatic. There is nothing wrong with wanting a manual, in some cars it's all I'd own. But saying a car doesn't NEED one because it's simply not what you prefer is silly. They are in the business of making cars that they can sell and I guarantee if they made an auto 1LE it would sell very well.
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I don't believe it's people don't know how to use a stick shift, it's the fact it's easier and faster because the technology has caught up. It wasn't too long ago to have the fastest car on the strip or the track it had to be a manual. Street cars and race cars. Now all the high end machines on and off the track use a version of an automatic. There is nothing wrong with wanting a manual, in some cars it's all I'd own. But saying a car doesn't NEED one because it's simply not what you prefer is silly. They are in the business of making cars that they can sell and I guarantee if they made an auto 1LE it would sell very well.
Why don't the 1LE have an automatic ?
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Old 04-21-2018, 08:41 AM   #83
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Why don't the 1LE have an automatic ?
It will eventually. I mean you're typing in a thread discussing it might on future models.
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Old 04-21-2018, 08:58 AM   #84
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It will eventually. I mean you're typing in a thread discussing it might on future models.
A stand alone model 1LE Camaro with a twin turbo V8 putting out over 750 HP would work well with me , thats a car that would be offered with an A10 and manual . I would of course have the manual.
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