2019 Camaro unveiled with refreshed design, 10 Speed and 1LE Turbo Model!! - Page 26

shaffe · 04-09-2018, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs

I’m curious if there’s anything else coming. The only reason I can think of to show this car off on a talk show is you want something bigger to be the focus of your own event.

Isn't that how the Z/28 reveal went IIRC? The face lift was shown on GMA and then little later bam Z/28

triggerjerk · 04-09-2018, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rray200

This refresh and its front end design pretty much guarantees that the 6th gen will always lag behind the S550 Mustang in sales.

+1.

And to get the visibility enhancing rear view tech, you have to get a 2SS

JefemanG · 04-09-2018, 01:35 PM

Refresh is made to sell to non-enthusiasts. Mustang did the same shit with the S550 and their sales skyrocketed, but they were related to the I4 and v6. Your average car consumer found the sleeker, less aggressive look attractive. I'd bet money that's what GM is going for here since the refresh is much more docile AND they're introducing an I4. Should boost sales along with all the hype the gen6 has generated since its release.

MackSteelPrivateEye · 04-09-2018, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LesBaer

Every Camaro to come out since the gen6 launch has looked more ridiculous than the last. It's like they're all trying to one up each other with the cartoonishly aggressive styling up front. I know I'm partial because of the car I own but I think it's got the best balance of class and aggressiveness for what it is. I don't remember a single person saying the new Transformers Bumblebee car looked good when it came out, but that's the direction this is headed in.

We live in a cartoon like society today of Fake news, Politically Correctness, twisting the truth etc. Not like 1950s or 60s when people used imagination to design. Now cars are designed in a wind tunnel to squeeze out power and MPG. I'm thinking that new grill on the SS will provide more direct air into the intake though, may eliminate the need for an after market CAI.

JaxChris · 04-09-2018, 01:36 PM

Another thought.... this front end belongs on a RWD Sedan to compete with the Charger, since it (along with the TF5 Camaro) was an aping of the Charger RT.

Cchief · 04-09-2018, 01:39 PM

There is talk that they are putting the Corvette 7 speed tranny in it. What a piece of shit tranny, the Tremec 6070. I had a 2016 Vette, traded it for my Camaro because of the tranny, filed a Lemon Law suit and proved thru GM bulletins that there was an issue with it in cold weather. Got a nice check and dumped the car.

Bhobbs · 04-09-2018, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by shaffe

Isn't that how the Z/28 reveal went IIRC? The face lift was shown on GMA and then little later bam Z/28

Yeah, that’s what I was thinking about. Could be a Z/28 or a ZL1 1LE Carbon package, like the mule we saw with carbon rotors.

Factorypilot · 04-09-2018, 01:42 PM

Boy.... that is super ugly. Glad I got in when I did.

douglas2742 · 04-09-2018, 01:42 PM

[QUOTE=Jamal;10140267]I think looks wise this is a pretty big change for just a refresh. It almost seems like a completely new generation camaro. Can't really say much about it as seeing it in person is always a completely different experience than looking at an image online. What does everyone think about the refresh, are they doing too much here or moving in the right direction?[/QUOT

It looks more like a regression, an attempt to return to the Gen 5 design with the two taillights and the front grill. But why? It's lost the mean, angry, sinister look from the front and the taillights appear to be done just to change things. Personally I like the blacked out/darkened taillight assembly of the Gen 6 better; but that change doesn't bother me much. However, the new grill? No. Don't like at all.

LesBaer · 04-09-2018, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JaxChris

Another thought.... this front end belongs on a RWD Sedan to compete with the Charger, since it (along with the TF5 Camaro) was an aping of the Charger RT.

Yeah, I totally see that as well. I can't stop thinking Spiderman when I see it as well. I think some of this is cheapening of the car to produce as well. They're talking price cuts too I remember reading.

Kgoeb · 04-09-2018, 01:43 PM

Barf. Glad I ordered a 2018 and didn't hold off any longer. Would have had to buy a Mustang if this was the only Camaro option available lol

FNxR3DNECK · 04-09-2018, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs

I’m curious if there’s anything else coming. The only reason I can think of to show this car off on a talk show is you want something bigger to be the focus of your own event.

There will be, some sort of press conference or mini-event of some sort this week most likely, just like they did with the Hot Wheels edition reveal a few months back.

Swoosh_ZL1 · 04-09-2018, 01:49 PM

Agree with most of the above comments. Hate the new look and glad I bought a 2018!

SecondZ28 · 04-09-2018, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Cchief

There is talk that they are putting the Corvette 7 speed tranny in it. What a piece of shit tranny, the Tremec 6070.

Turned out to be false..

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/02/20/...-transmission/

04-09-2018, 01:39 PM	#356
Cchief Drives: 2017 Fifty 2SS Convertible Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Southern New Jersey Posts: 179	There is talk that they are putting the Corvette 7 speed tranny in it. What a piece of shit tranny, the Tremec 6070. I had a 2016 Vette, traded it for my Camaro because of the tranny, filed a Lemon Law suit and proved thru GM bulletins that there was an issue with it in cold weather. Got a nice check and dumped the car. __________________ 2017 2SS 50th anniv. vert. 2017 Jeep Laredo Altitude 2018 MB GLE350

04-09-2018, 01:42 PM	#359
douglas2742 Drives: 2017 Camaro SS coupe Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Apple Valley, MN Posts: 217	[QUOTE=Jamal;10140267]I think looks wise this is a pretty big change for just a refresh. It almost seems like a completely new generation camaro. Can't really say much about it as seeing it in person is always a completely different experience than looking at an image online. What does everyone think about the refresh, are they doing too much here or moving in the right direction?[/QUOT It looks more like a regression, an attempt to return to the Gen 5 design with the two taillights and the front grill. But why? It's lost the mean, angry, sinister look from the front and the taillights appear to be done just to change things. Personally I like the blacked out/darkened taillight assembly of the Gen 6 better; but that change doesn't bother me much. However, the new grill? No. Don't like at all. __________________ 1SS, Recaro seats, A8 w/paddle shift extensions, NPP, Magnuson 2300 supercharger, Flowmaster American Thunder exhaust and x-pipe, factory handling kit, Phastek lowering springs, Alpine sound system w/JL sub, Lexani custom 21" wheels, Michelin Super Sport 4S tires, Bigwormgraphix striping, Chevy Performance Brembo big brake kit, darkened taillights and Remin carbon fiber dash kit.

04-09-2018, 01:35 PM	#353
JefemanG Drives: 40th Anniversary Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Florida Posts: 59	Refresh is made to sell to non-enthusiasts. Mustang did the same shit with the S550 and their sales skyrocketed, but they were related to the I4 and v6. Your average car consumer found the sleeker, less aggressive look attractive. I'd bet money that's what GM is going for here since the refresh is much more docile AND they're introducing an I4. Should boost sales along with all the hype the gen6 has generated since its release.

04-09-2018, 01:36 PM	#355
JaxChris Drives: '16 2SS GD1 MX0 NPP F55 IO6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 1,298	Another thought.... this front end belongs on a RWD Sedan to compete with the Charger, since it (along with the TF5 Camaro) was an aping of the Charger RT.

04-09-2018, 01:42 PM	#358
Factorypilot Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Texas Posts: 355	Boy.... that is super ugly. Glad I got in when I did.

04-09-2018, 01:43 PM	#361
Kgoeb Drives: 18 1LE, 12 Regal GS Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Ottawa Ontario Posts: 46	Barf. Glad I ordered a 2018 and didn't hold off any longer. Would have had to buy a Mustang if this was the only Camaro option available lol

04-09-2018, 01:49 PM	#363
Swoosh_ZL1 Drives: 2018 Camaro ZL1 (M6) Join Date: May 2016 Location: OKC, OK Posts: 33	Agree with most of the above comments. Hate the new look and glad I bought a 2018!

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