[MackSteelPrivateEye]

Originally Posted by motorhead

Wish they made this car. Best looking cars GM ever designed in modern times. Wow!

Yeh..looks nice. Whats stopping them?

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by MackSteelPrivateEye

Yeh..looks nice. Whats stopping them?

There are other folks on here that could give a more educated answer to your question, but I love t he car. It could handle like a hay wagon, be slower than lawnmower ,and I would be all over it.

[MackSteelPrivateEye]

I just found this....sounds like some at GM hate it...

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...ple-gm-report/

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by MackSteelPrivateEye

I just found this....sounds like some at GM hate it...

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...ple-gm-report/

That's an interesting read. I havent seen that. I can believe that the Camaro team wouldn't like that car. It's simply breathtaking. Better looking than any Caddy too. That looks like a 150k plus car all day long.

[nancygrl]

Originally Posted by motorhead

That's an interesting read. I havent seen that. I can believe that the Camaro team wouldn't like that car. It's simply breathtaking. Better looking than any Caddy too. That looks like a 150k plus car all day long.

The Camaro team probably didn't like it because they didn't come up with the design and it looks better too.

[GelflingEssence]

My first 2 cars were Chevelles.

I was initially attracted to Chevelles because, aesthetically speaking, they were bigger, meaner, and more aggressive than the Camaros. Also used Chevelle's (and parts) were cheaper and readily available in my area. The 1st and 2nd gen Camaros were rather rare and I had absolutely no interest in the 3rd and 4th gen Camaros.

Fast forward 20 years and I was just about to pull the trigger on a 6th gen Camaro (I had been dreaming about it for a while) when I suddenly veered left and bought a Challenger. I really don't care for Dodge but the Challenger is such an unabashed American hauler that I couldn't resist it's unrefined charm. It helps that the Challenger has a large trunk and useful back seat (although not as bountiful as a Chevelle, you could actually procreate in the back of a Chevelle).

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by nancygrl

The Camaro team probably didn't like it because they didn't come up with the design and it looks better too.

Sounds like it if true.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by GelflingEssence

My first 2 cars were Chevelles.

I was initially attracted to Chevelles because, aesthetically speaking, they were bigger, meaner, and more aggressive than the Camaros. Also used Chevelle's (and parts) were cheaper and readily available in my area. The 1st and 2nd gen Camaros were rather rare and I had absolutely no interest in the 3rd and 4th gen Camaros.

Fast forward 20 years and I was just about to pull the trigger on a 6th gen Camaro (I had been dreaming about it for a while) when I suddenly veered left and bought a Challenger. I really don't care for Dodge but the Challenger is such an unabashed American hauler that I couldn't resist it's unrefined charm. It helps that the Challenger has a large trunk and useful back seat (although not as bountiful as a Chevelle, you could actually procreate in the back of a Chevelle).

Im with you. Its about as close as you can get to a Chevelle these days. Unfortunately for many, GM listened to the enthusiasts with this Gen6 car and gave them what they wanted at the price of being practical. Best Camaro ever by every performance test there is. It just has no room at all.

[Rayfield]

Originally Posted by outobie

I seem to be in the minority on this forum but handling and fuel mileage are way more important than a big motor. I would have liked to have had an all wheel drive option and the higher spec suspension option on the 2.0T motor.

This is the position that I was in, about 5 years ago, wanted a light-weight, RWD sports car, in the tradition of "true" sports cars. I wound up in the BRZ, which, make no mistake, is a blast to drive, if you enjoy hanging the rear out there, on a regular basis.

But I come from higher-hp cars, in the past, and eventually the little 4-banger wasn't enough. One test drive with the LT1 sealed the deal.. Fuel mileage isn't a high priority for me, at this point.

[CCG Garnet Red]

Cars I have owned, in order age 15 to 32 (63 this month): 65 EL Camino (15), 66 Malibu coupe (16), 72 Malibu 350 2v (17), 72 Chevelle SS 350 4v (19), 75 RS Camaro (21), 79 Z28 (1st new car, 23), 64 Malibu SS vert (30), 70 Chevelle SS396 4 sp ( 30 sold in summer of 87 to buy 79 vette, worse car move I ever made although I still have the vette and like it), 84 Monte Carlo SS ( 28, "my family car" when my daughter was born. This reminded me so much of a Chevelle in so many ways except just a H.O. 305. GM stopped the model to go FWD and build more pickups- big mistake). Wanted the vette, who knew the Chevelle would be a $60K car today, Fathom Blue, white stripes, white interior, buckets, console, 4 sp, factory air, and gauges. Don't know what I was thinking. So it goes, a Chevelle today with a big block and all required safety features would make the modern Challenger look like a lightweight and would cannibalize Camaro sales to the 40 - 65 age group that remembers them and buys Camaros. Wish I had the 70 back!

[GAmaro]

Originally Posted by Rayfield

Camaro was a good fit for me; the Corvette was twice the cost for slightly more performance, and much higher insurance premiums. The back seats are indeed small, but my family is on the short side, and we actually can all fit in there for brief hops.

The Challenger is a great car for somebody, no criticism, but it weighs more than I prefer for my enthusiast car. The SS is at the upper limit, actually.

A reborn Chevelle? That didn't weigh 4200lbs? I would have had a look, for sure. My dream car in high school was a 70 Chevelle SS..3200 lbs with a big block. But it doesn't currently exist.

^^^^This...
I just traded in my SRT 392. HATED the handling. I wasn’t expecting earth shattering results considering the weight. The room was nice but I don’t miss it one bit. The Camaro handles like a German sports car. I was floored with how responsive the Alpha platform has made this car. I have no regrets of lost space, hauling the family around works and they even like it better. Granted, we won’t take this on long trips. But if the wife and I get out, it’s a no brainer on what ride we are taking.

[whiteboyblues2001]

Couldn't they just have used the CTS Coupe configuration of the Alpha Chassis and restyle the body as Chevelle, Impalla, or Nova throwback and throw a Chevy badge on the front?

Either way, more room, with a V8, and rear wheel drive (not to mention German like handling) would be very tempting, assuming it looked right.

[CCG Garnet Red]

Originally Posted by whiteboyblues2001

Couldn't they just have used the CTS Coupe configuration of the Alpha Chassis and restyle the body as Chevelle, Impalla, or Nova throwback and throw a Chevy badge on the front?

Either way, more room, with a V8, and rear wheel drive (not to mention German like handling) would be very tempting, assuming it looked right.

"Badge Engineering" cost GM a lot of $ back in the day. Look at Pontiac at the end: G8 - rebadged Holden (also Chevy SS), G6 - rebadged Malibu, G5 - rebadged Cobalt I think, G3 - can't remember which small Chevy, Torrent - rebadged Eclipse, Saturn Sky and Pontiac Soltice - from the GM parts bins, even the last Firebirds based on Camaro with a Chevy engine. In the late '80's, 90's competition ran commercials when the valet couldn't tell the difference in the large Olds, Caddys , Pontiacs, etc. Those days are not missed. JMO.

[whiteboyblues2001]

Originally Posted by CCG Garnet Red

"Badge Engineering" cost GM a lot of $ back in the day. Look at Pontiac at the end: G8 - rebadged Holden (also Chevy SS), G6 - rebadged Malibu, G5 - rebadged Cobalt I think, G3 - can't remember which small Chevy, Torrent - rebadged Eclipse, Saturn Sky and Pontiac Soltice - from the GM parts bins, even the last Firebirds based on Camaro with a Chevy engine. In the late '80's, 90's competition ran commercials when the valet couldn't tell the difference in the large Olds, Caddys , Pontiacs, etc. Those days are not missed. JMO.

I agree that you don't need six versions of every platform with Chevy, Buick, Oldsmobile, Cadillac, Pontiac, etc...

The difference here is that you can't get the CTS with an LT1. You can get the LT4 CTS-V, but how about a more Charger competitor. LT1 rear wheel drive, and you can use the back seat.

Use Chevy as the stripped down affordable car, and Cadillac as the luxury brand. Makes no sense to have Cadillac feature "exclusive" engines. Have Cadillac feature more luxury and high end features.

They turned the ATS sized Alpha into the Camaro, make the CTS sized Alpha the Chevelle. I'm not asking for four other versions.