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![]() Drives: red ss convertible Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Marvin N.C.
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open exhaust pull #51 fuse doesn't work "full time"
I love the open exhaust sound so I pulled fuse #51 as suggested. On my '16SS it isn't open "full time". If I am cruising at a given speed ( doesn't matter what speed) and not accelerating at least slightly, the exhaust closes. When I give it a little gas I hear a slight "pop" and they are open as long as I am on the gas a little. They seem to close anytime I am not accelerating a little bit (or a lot) so, for me, they aren't open "full time". They are never open when decelerating. It is much better than Is there a way to keep them open all the time ?
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![]() Drives: 17 Camaro 2SS 50th Anniversary Conv Join Date: May 2017
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Sounds like you are hearing the AFM valves opening and closing while its going from V8 to V4 and back to V8 mode. By pulling fuse #51 there is no power to the NPP valves, so they can't work.
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+1 agreed. Hate the AFM's... try the "Range Device", preferably the 8.6, or the current version available to date. Other option is forego the warranty and get a tune to eliminate this non-sense to stay in V8.
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![]() Drives: 2014 c7 corvette and 2017 camaro ss Join Date: Jun 2017
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mine works fine with the fuse pulled, always open,
and I just put in the afm range device it works flawless so far, no more afm |
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![]() Drives: 2017 50th Anniversary Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: illinois
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Like other have said. AFM is what you're hearing.
Annoying as all hell. |
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![]() Drives: 2017 Camaro SS 50th Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Iowa
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I have the fuse pulled and the Range 8.6 version installed. Exhaust open all the time and V-8 all the time.
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Location: Saukville, WI
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The tuning shop my cars sitting at right now didn't understand what valve I wanted to make sure was tuned out/ off as they went though and tuned it. |
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![]() Drives: 2017 1SS Camaro; 2016 4Runner Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Mesa, AZ
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Range device sucks -- drops a CEL after 1-2 days of use. Had multiple firmware flashes, now I just have 100 bucks of plastic in my glove compartment.
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Location: orlando
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![]() Drives: red ss convertible Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Marvin N.C.
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what is a range device and where do you get it ?
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Location: Charlotte
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I drive in manual mode almost all the time with the fuse pulled and it may kick into V4 mode when I first start the car up and am driving carefully out of my neighborhood. Then once I give a quick stab of the throttle or downshift, I'll get that "pop" that sounds like the exhaust valves opening (which is really the AFM) then it goes back to V8 mode and and stays there no matter how gingerly I operate the throttle from there on out. There's really no need for a range device or software to disable AFM you just need to keep it in manual mode. Last edited by bdavies11; 03-19-2018 at 02:06 PM. |
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![]() Drives: red ss convertible Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Marvin N.C.
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Thanks for all the replies. I'll try the manual mode, which I seldom use unless I'm in the mountains, and see how that works.
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Aren't there separate AFM valves in front of the cats separate from the NPP valves that will still open and close?
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![]() ![]() ![]() Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Stansbury Park, Utah
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Yes. Completely different. I have fuse 51 pulled too. The NPP valves always stay open. But those !@$# AFM valves I hear when it goes into V4 mode. It's a muffled sound..sounds like the car is "bogging". I think if I delete the sound tube it won't be as noticeable.
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