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Old 01-31-2018, 03:46 PM   #1387
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Compared to the totally rational and reasonable hot wheels Camaro?

Or the Transformers Edition 5th Gen?
In these instances, the cars are purely loaded up with specific paint and cool interiors, no different than the California Special GT. It's all appearance. The car itself is still the same performance car underneath. They aren't trumping up a basic car with a light HP bump and a specific package upgrade and then claiming its something it's really not.

I mean, you can buy a GT with the PP1 and throw an intake on it = Bullitt.... I mean jeez...

Meanwhile, regardless of what Camaro you buy, it's still a better car in Transformers Edition or Redline Edition or plain jane edition than the competing similar model Mustang.

That said, I hate most of these packages because they do get silly, for all manufacturers...
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Old 01-31-2018, 03:50 PM   #1388
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So 3.5 seconds faster than a pp1 around a track that is twice as long as the one used for the head 2 head in which the 1le was 3.3 seconds faster than a pp1. This suggests the pp2 will only be able to cut the gap in half.
Grattan is only 0.4 miles longer than streets of Willow with higher average speeds, looking at lap times of same cars on these 2 tracks seems to show only a 3% time different between the two tracks. Of course there are a lot of variables at play here but if their claims of 3.5s is true, it puts PP2 and 1LE at near identical lap times
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Old 01-31-2018, 04:02 PM   #1389
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http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...ir-lap-record/

And the ZR1 just beat the Ford GT's lap time....
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Old 01-31-2018, 04:28 PM   #1390
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^ wow.

But, I think we all knew the ZR1 was going to smash the GT anyways. At least I thought that.
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Old 01-31-2018, 04:57 PM   #1391
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Grattan is only 0.4 miles longer than streets of Willow with higher average speeds, looking at lap times of same cars on these 2 tracks seems to show only a 3% time different between the two tracks. Of course there are a lot of variables at play here but if their claims of 3.5s is true, it puts PP2 and 1LE at near identical lap times
Your right, should be closer than I thought.
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Old 01-31-2018, 05:33 PM   #1392
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^ wow.

But, I think we all knew the ZR1 was going to smash the GT anyways. At least I thought that.
Looks like your next car right there ^^^^.
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Old 01-31-2018, 05:40 PM   #1393
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http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...ir-lap-record/

And the ZR1 just beat the Ford GT's lap time....
Oh boy, our Mustang friends are going to claim the Ford GT is still the better car because of the interior....
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Old 01-31-2018, 05:53 PM   #1394
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Looks like your next car right there ^^^^.
haha, nah. I like the Zr1, but my Vette days are over. Hurts my old knees getting in and out of the car. But, you never know. I'd have to see one in person, then knowing me, I'll buy one just to fkn buy one. Has to be in dark gray w/black wheels. Game over in that color combo.
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Oh boy, our Mustang friends are going to claim the Ford GT is still the better car because of the interior....
No.

They'll say it's the better car because it'll hold it's value longer (as if someone who paid that much for a car would just casually sell it and not send it to a collection)

They'll say that it's a more unique car (which it is)

They'll say that it's a true race car (which..again it is)

The best part about it is everyone who defends it tooth and nail has zero chance of ever owning one.
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Old 01-31-2018, 06:07 PM   #1396
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No.

They'll say it's the better car because it'll hold it's value longer (as if someone who paid that much for a car would just casually sell it and not send it to a collection)

They'll say that it's a more unique car (which it is)

They'll say that it's a true race car (which..again it is)

The best part about it is everyone who defends it tooth and nail has zero chance of ever owning one.
Fanboys.............................you can blame the GTR for creating them. haha.
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Old 01-31-2018, 06:32 PM   #1397
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haha, nah. I like the Zr1, but my Vette days are over. Hurts my old knees getting in and out of the car. But, you never know. I'd have to see one in person, then knowing me, I'll buy one just to fkn buy one. Has to be in dark gray w/black wheels. Game over in that color combo.
I'm sorry....what was that again?
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^^^gorgeous

Love my nightfall gray 2SS with Kalahari. Best color
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Old 01-31-2018, 09:29 PM   #1399
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http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...ir-lap-record/

And the ZR1 just beat the Ford GT's lap time....
I guess we'll have to put the Mustang fanboys and M6G on suicide watch again...
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But, but, it isn't "apples to apples".
But, but, the Ford GT wasn't built for that track.
But, but, the Ford GT is more of a collector's car than a track car.
But, but, the tires on the GT had 1 mile on them.
But, but, it was a different day.
But, but (sniffle)...
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