[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by SSfriendly

And yet, it's still proof...and better documented than any 1/4 mile run listed in this forum.

And still you won't answer the question lol.

Is it official?

So you're saying that the only way the GT can beat any stock V8 Camaro is when the Mustang is modded? Is that what you're getting at?

If we took a top 15 of the 6th Gen Camaros and the S550 Mustang GTs...how many GTs would be on that list?

[SSfriendly]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Is it official?

So you're saying that the only way the GT can beat any stock V8 Camaro is when the Mustang is modded? Is that what you're getting at?

Bwahaha, where do you get this stuff...really? Serious question though, it's as if 1+2=18 in your world.

[Gunkk]

11.3 is damn impressive. Kudos to Lund for the impressive work and run. Even moreso if a GT owner can reproduce it for $579... plus what, $2k for wheels and tires?

[SSfriendly]

Originally Posted by Gunkk

11.3 is damn impressive. Kudos to Lund for the impressive work and run. Even moreso if a GT owner can reproduce it for $579... plus what, $2k for wheels and tires?

Sorry, forgot the whole link. Here is the full story. It's a decent in-depth on the tuning and details of the runs.

https://youtu.be/tlifLimQEPI

[kttxz06]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

All of that to deflect from the fact that the video shows a 2018 GT running ZL1 times with just a tune/fuel/tire.

Um, shall we also add a prepped track in ideal air with a hero driver mod. So, it really has 6 mods. And isn't this the same car that snapped the drive axle? Oops.

This is what the fanboys do over on the Mustang forums. I know because I posted a Youtube video of me snapping off a 10.46 quarter time on street tires. I had my video up prob a good hour on a straight call out to '18 GT owners to come get some.

BlaqWhole knows. I had over 100 comments within a hour stating.............................the run was fake. You aren't stock. Since when did we compare a GT to the Zl1? Then, I posted forum links. Again, silence. They continued to claim nobody has ever said a tuned/tire/and fuel GT would slay a ZL1. Then I sent about 10 YouTube links where there were several dozen, if not a hundred comments after the Lund run.

Watch out Zl1 owners. We are coming. These are from people who own no '18 GT's. They saw the Lund run, then claimed the GT was a 11 sec out the box car. Then the real world testing came out and it flat lined. Eh, we can go on and on.

My call out remains. I'm still waiting to see a '18 GT on the street so I can fkn smash em. Shoot, even a blowered GT will not run with a Zl1. Sorry.

Lunds run..........again. In ideal air. Super hero driver mod on a prepped, closed track.

I can take my Zl1 out to the track on a rental. Throw down some sticky, get my car to hook and crack off a low 10 seconds. Then get on the net and proclaim to the world that I have a low 10 sec car. The difference is, the Camaro crowd won't take that one run, then proclaim the Zl1 a McLaren beater. Get our point yet? Or do we need to write it in crayon for you?

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by kttxz06

Um, shall we also add a prepped track in ideal air with a hero driver mod. So, it really has 6 mods. And isn't this the same car that snapped the drive axle? Oops.

This is what the fanboys do over on the Mustang forums. I know because I posted a Youtube video of me snapping off a 10.46 quarter time on street tires. I had my video up prob a good hour on a straight call out to '18 GT owners to come get some.

BlaqWhole knows. I had over 100 comments within a hour stating.............................the run was fake. You aren't stock. Since when did we compare a GT to the Zl1? Then, I posted forum links. Again, silence. They continued to claim nobody has ever said a tuned/tire/and fuel GT would slay a ZL1. Then I sent about 10 YouTube links where there were several dozen, if not a hundred comments after the Lund run.

Watch out Zl1 owners. We are coming. These are from people who own no '18 GT's. They saw the Lund run, then claimed the GT was a 11 sec out the box car. Then the real world testing came out and it flat lined. Eh, we can go on and on.

My call out remains. I'm still waiting to see a '18 GT on the street so I can fkn smash em. Shoot, even a blowered GT will not run with a Zl1. Sorry.

Lunds run..........again. In ideal air. Super hero driver mod on a prepped, closed track.

I can take my Zl1 out to the track on a rental. Throw down some sticky, get my car to hook and crack off a low 10 seconds. Then get on the net and proclaim to the world that I have a low 10 sec car. The difference is, the Camaro crowd won't take that one run, then proclaim the Zl1 a McLaren beater. Get our point yet? Or do we need to write it in crayon for you?

They'll destroy you bro...

HAHA!! I remember that video. You shoulda left it up!!

[Syphon23]

Originally Posted by kttxz06

Um, shall we also add a prepped track in ideal air with a hero driver mod. So, it really has 6 mods. And isn't this the same car that snapped the drive axle? Oops.

This is what the fanboys do over on the Mustang forums. I know because I posted a Youtube video of me snapping off a 10.46 quarter time on street tires. I had my video up prob a good hour on a straight call out to '18 GT owners to come get some.

BlaqWhole knows. I had over 100 comments within a hour stating.............................the run was fake. You aren't stock. Since when did we compare a GT to the Zl1? Then, I posted forum links. Again, silence. They continued to claim nobody has ever said a tuned/tire/and fuel GT would slay a ZL1. Then I sent about 10 YouTube links where there were several dozen, if not a hundred comments after the Lund run.

Watch out Zl1 owners. We are coming. These are from people who own no '18 GT's. They saw the Lund run, then claimed the GT was a 11 sec out the box car. Then the real world testing came out and it flat lined. Eh, we can go on and on.

My call out remains. I'm still waiting to see a '18 GT on the street so I can fkn smash em. Shoot, even a blowered GT will not run with a Zl1. Sorry.

Lunds run..........again. In ideal air. Super hero driver mod on a prepped, closed track.

I can take my Zl1 out to the track on a rental. Throw down some sticky, get my car to hook and crack off a low 10 seconds. Then get on the net and proclaim to the world that I have a low 10 sec car. The difference is, the Camaro crowd won't take that one run, then proclaim the Zl1 a McLaren beater. Get our point yet? Or do we need to write it in crayon for you?

Yep. M6G guys are just delusional.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by Syphon23

Yep. M6G guys are just delusional.

They giving you a hard time over there? That just means that everything you said makes sense, lol!!

[Syphon23]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

They giving you a hard time over there? That just means that everything you said makes sense, lol!!

They even come over here, copy my posts and repost them over there. Thats borderline psychopathic behavior.

Then they try to diss my Corvette. When my little 08 LS3 will still put a hurting on an 18 Mustang with just a CAI/Exhaust and Tune.

[BlaqWhole]

Yea they do that to me all the time...

[ULTRAZLS1]

They still haven’t matched what an 02 ls6 corvette can do. Ford is weak as f

[JamesNoBrakes]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

The visibility is not as bad as people make it out to be. Haters will over-exaggerate it while fans will downplay it. I don't have any issues with it at all. And I definitely prefer the styling over the better visibility since I haven't had any issues with it at all.

It's a hazard, not admitting this is dumb. Yes, you can adapt to it, but no one says the Countach is a dumb car because you have to open the door and SIT ON THE FREAKING DOOR SILL to back it up (ok, maybe a couple people call it dumb for this). I "learned" to back very carefully on my 2010, even though it had sensors, it didn't have a camera, so I literally "tip-toed" every time I backed it and as far as side, yes, it sucks. Yes, you adjust your mirrors, yes, a human will still miss things, especially when you are crossing more than one lane or coming on from an on-ramp where the angle won't necessarily line up with where you have the mirror set (because it's looking at the blind-spot to the side). You learn to adapt, but humans are poor machines and they make errors, so with this in mind, you can do everything right, but every once and a while you might still make an error, so it's a hazard. Is it worth it? For most of us, yes. My BMW 4-series GC rear hatch was literally the same size as the rear window in the gen5 and gen6, BMW even cut the rear view mirror down a bit to make it "seem" like there was more out there, but in reality the extreme slope of the rear left very little vertical so the rear window was almost exactly the same as a camaro. These are some of the prices we pay. If you want a car designed like a passenger-sedan, go see my post in the "photos/videos" forum, I designed car specifically for people who wants sports cars to look like passenger cars.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes

It's a hazard, not admitting this is dumb. Yes, you can adapt to it, but no one says the Countach is a dumb car because you have to open the door and SIT ON THE FREAKING DOOR SILL to back it up (ok, maybe a couple people call it dumb for this). I "learned" to back very carefully on my 2010, even though it had sensors, it didn't have a camera, so I literally "tip-toed" every time I backed it and as far as side, yes, it sucks. Yes, you adjust your mirrors, yes, a human will still miss things, especially when you are crossing more than one lane or coming on from an on-ramp where the angle won't necessarily line up with where you have the mirror set (because it's looking at the blind-spot to the side). You learn to adapt, but humans are poor machines and they make errors, so with this in mind, you can do everything right, but every once and a while you might still make an error, so it's a hazard. Is it worth it? For most of us, yes. My BMW 4-series GC rear hatch was literally the same size as the rear window in the gen5 and gen6, BMW even cut the rear view mirror down a bit to make it "seem" like there was more out there, but in reality the extreme slope of the rear left very little vertical so the rear window was almost exactly the same as a camaro. These are some of the prices we pay. If you want a car designed like a passenger-sedan, go see my post in the "photos/videos" forum, I designed car specifically for people who wants sports cars to look like passenger cars.

My 5th Gen had no rear camera but it had the backup sensors. It had no cross traffic/blind spot alerting system, but I learned to look every time I had to switch lanes. If I had to back out of a spot and had no visibility, I'd just slowly and carefully inch out. And I learned to use other methods of detection such as shadows, reflections, even memory and estimating where other cars were. I never had one visibility related issue in that car. Not one. My ZL1 has blind spot alerts, rear cameras, etc. Even with those I still heavily relied on the methods I mentioned. One time, once, I put all my trust into the blind spot alert and almost side checked another car. After that I went back to using the methods I learned before and left the alerts system to supplementary use. I can drive my ZL1 on any highway at night at high speeds and zig-zag thru traffic easily without skipping a beat. I don't because it is illegal. But on road courses I have no issues moving in, out, and around other cars easily. So to me, the complaints regarding the blind spots are highly over exaggerated. It seems like it is a negative against the Camaro that the Mustang guys like to blow out of proportion.

And the irony of it all is that for all the complaints about how dangerous the Camaro is due to the poor visibility, the Mustang guys are the ones who slam into crowds, cars...even causing major deadly and fatal accidents. Apparently visibility doesn't really have an effect on motor vehicle safety.

[SSfriendly]

Originally Posted by kttxz06

Um, shall we also add a prepped track in ideal air with a hero driver mod. So, it really has 6 mods. And isn't this the same car that snapped the drive axle? Oops.

This is what the fanboys do over on the Mustang forums. I know because I posted a Youtube video of me snapping off a 10.46 quarter time on street tires. I had my video up prob a good hour on a straight call out to '18 GT owners to come get some.

BlaqWhole knows. I had over 100 comments within a hour stating.............................the run was fake. You aren't stock. Since when did we compare a GT to the Zl1? Then, I posted forum links. Again, silence. They continued to claim nobody has ever said a tuned/tire/and fuel GT would slay a ZL1. Then I sent about 10 YouTube links where there were several dozen, if not a hundred comments after the Lund run.

Watch out Zl1 owners. We are coming. These are from people who own no '18 GT's. They saw the Lund run, then claimed the GT was a 11 sec out the box car. Then the real world testing came out and it flat lined. Eh, we can go on and on.

My call out remains. I'm still waiting to see a '18 GT on the street so I can fkn smash em. Shoot, even a blowered GT will not run with a Zl1. Sorry.

Lunds run..........again. In ideal air. Super hero driver mod on a prepped, closed track.

I can take my Zl1 out to the track on a rental. Throw down some sticky, get my car to hook and crack off a low 10 seconds. Then get on the net and proclaim to the world that I have a low 10 sec car. The difference is, the Camaro crowd won't take that one run, then proclaim the Zl1 a McLaren beater. Get our point yet? Or do we need to write it in crayon for you?

So Camaro SS drivers that get low 11's on a tune/tire combo are just average guys running down shitty, un-prepped dragstrips....but all mustangs that do the same are "superhero" "professional" drivers on super crazy prepped tracks that will never be replicated ever until the end of time?

LOL.

By the way, the coyote facebook page has a few more stock high 11 second runs that have been posted. You of course will refuse to believe them, as all mustang owners lie about being stock and only camaro owners are truthful.