[vtirocz]

Originally Posted by EMTNLSS

Looks like Jonny Lieberman isn't fond of the steering/handling of the 2018 Mustang.

Interesting. Thanks for posting that.

[kttxz06]

Originally Posted by Nabush

https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-6066-M8627

670Hp supercharger kit for 15-17, CARB approved and 1 year 12 000 miles warranty (better than nothing)

As far SAE, it seems in US on the dyno you can have either "standard" correction or SAE correction for the wheel horsepower number, the latter showing obviously lower numbers

Here are some videos of dyno of the new coyote :

420.63whp SAE corrected with 6800rpm cut do to speed limiter on a Dynojet around 2 min 10 :



421whp on baseline, 469whp with CAI, E85 tune, not too bad...



Around 4min 30 and after (don't bother too much with the guy in the video )


And so on.

So either way Ford made very good transmissions and the transmission loss are less than 10% or the motor does make more power than 460HP...

Um, sorry. Those numbers suck. Considering all the Ford Fanboys came running over here claiming a fuel and tune GT would slay a Zl1. By those horrible #'s, I'd like to see that happen.

[whiteboyblues2001]

Originally Posted by EMTNLSS

Looks like Jonny Lieberman isn't fond of the steering/handling of the 2018 Mustang.

Not a big fan of that color. I mean, it worked for the early 70's, but then again, so did shag carpeting and bell bottoms. It just doesn't translate to today's Mustang well.

A few extra HP is always fun!

And, wow, it's interesting what Johnny said about he 2018 Mustang PP1's handling capabilities. Ouch...

[Quinten_33]

I like the green on the mustang. The Camaro could never pull it off though. As for the handling, there’s a reason why the Camaro SS is $2,500 more than a GT. Just wait until the winter when Motor Trend publishes a head to head between the PP2 and the refreshed SS 1LE. The Mustang will feel 10 years older than the Camaro in terms of performance and handling.

[metros11]

Originally Posted by Quinten_33

I like the green on the mustang. The Camaro could never pull it off though. As for the handling, there’s a reason why the Camaro SS is $2,500 more than a GT.

No, the reason the Camaro is $2,000 (to be exact) more than the Mustang is because the base model comes with a full size screen, XM radio, automatic temperature control, voice commands, projection (aka Android Auto or Apple Car Play) and a few other creature comforts. The Mustang forces you to pay exactly $2,000 for the 301A package to get those things. Once you do, at $37,995 (to be exact, again, just like the Camaro) the Mustang still lacks in the handling department.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by metros11

No, the reason the Camaro is $2,000 (to be exact) more than the Mustang is because the base model comes with a full size screen, XM radio, automatic temperature control, voice commands, projection (aka Android Auto or Apple Car Play) and a few other creature comforts. The Mustang forces you to pay exactly $2,000 for the 301A package to get those things. Once you do, at $37,995 (to be exact, again, just like the Camaro) the Mustang still lacks in the handling department.

The base SS also has Bermbo brakes front/rear, three radiators, oil/transmission/diff coolers and brake cooling ducts. Standard. You don't get that on the GT...even the PP2

[mjk3888]

Isn't the review up now for MotorTrend Subscribers?

[vtirocz]

Originally Posted by mjk3888

Isn't the review up now for MotorTrend Subscribers?

No. It goes live tomorrow / Wednesday (Jan 17).

[mjk3888]

Originally Posted by vtirocz

No. It goes live tomorrow / Wednesday (Jan 17).

Thanks getting a little trigger happy over here. LOL

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by mjk3888

Thanks getting a little trigger happy over here. LOL

The GT is going to hurt a lot of feeling...we've been told.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by hotlap

The GT is going to hurt a lot of feeling...we've been told.

I think its more the feelings of a few over there are going to get hurt lol

[Deakins]

Not gonna lie...if the price was reasonable on that Bullitt I would be all over one. Pretty cool of you ask me for a car to hit the streets with but sadly they will probably be close enough to a ZL1 that I'd get sucked in to that vortex...

[FastCarFanBoy]

Someone's feelings will be hurt fo sho

[ST1LE]

That Bullit is pretty cool, I like they gave it a power bump. Going to be pricey though!!