I wish the Camaro had better road feedback. Do diff tires help ?

T32803 · 01-11-2018, 10:31 PM

I came from a G35 and I loved the road feedback through the steering
wheel as made me feel connected to the road and made driving more fun.

The Camaro feels numb in this regard. It's probably the biggest flaw I can
point out with the car (more so than the limited visibility out the windshield).
I tried Sport and Touring modes for steering and both feel decoupled
from the road.

Has anyone found the connection to the road through the steering wheel
get better when you shed those nasty/loud sounding goodyears ? I've owned
a bunch of cars and these are the worst tires I ever had on a new car.

Chevyman2 · 01-11-2018, 10:33 PM

Think the zl1 provides ample feedback.

T32803 · 01-11-2018, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chevyman2

Think the zl1 provides ample feedback.

I'm poor.. Can't afford one. You're a lucky guy indeed !!

I do piss and moan about getting 18.5 MPG though.
I can only imagine what the ZL1 gets.. 9 MPG maybe ?

PS: I at least paid for the ZL1 rear spoiler so my car looks just
a little more edgy.

L99BEN · 01-11-2018, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T32803

I'm poor.. Can't afford one. You're a lucky guy indeed !!

I do piss and moan about getting 18.5 MPG though.
I can only imagine what the ZL1 gets.. 9 MPG maybe ?

PS: I at least paid for the ZL1 rear spoiler so my car looks just
a little more edgy.

I have been averaging 21 in my SS over 10k miles.
You must be flogging it everywhere

T32803 · 01-11-2018, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L99BEN

I have been averaging 21 in my SS over 10k miles.
You must be flogging it everywhere

I do live downtown in a city so plenty of lights to stop at.
No freeway driving either. Just lots of launches and stops.
But I do floor it as much as humanly possible however.
It would seem wrong not to..

arpad_m · 01-11-2018, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T32803

I do live downtown in a city so plenty of lights to stop at.
No freeway driving either. Just lots of launches and stops.
But I do floor it as much as humanly possible however.
It would seem wrong not to..

There you go

Indeed the V6 can give great average mpg's even in the city, though one has to choke off that right foot impulse, not rev too high, and nudge the car towards dropping down to V4 mode more often... but then what's the point of having a Camaro in the first place, eh? That LGX simply craves high rpm's, I can almost hear her begging for it every time.

WhyUMad1LE · 01-12-2018, 01:15 AM

The V6 doesn't have all the structural reinforcement from the V8 models. Maybe try a strut brace?

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=517935

Gen6 softtop · 01-12-2018, 08:07 AM

The SS feels glued to the road with very good feed back also good mpg for the hp. Honestly if you bought the v6 and not the LE your driving a basic car that looks sporty that's it!

*Mr. Wyndham* · 01-12-2018, 08:33 AM

It's been a while, and I forget, does the LT have driving modes? Sport/Tour/etc? Last time I drove the LT, I thought the feedback was pretty good.

Another thought - what tires do you have, all-season, or summer?

Yellow6thGen · 01-12-2018, 08:39 AM

I’m getting 17.5-23mpg in my ZL1 guess it’s all in how you drive it. Mine is better than my 16 SS!

Chez · 01-12-2018, 09:01 AM

The stock runflats are trash. Try a good summer tire and it will make a big difference.

JamesNoBrakes · 01-12-2018, 10:08 AM

From the ZL1-1LE to the 4cyl rental fleet, you'll get an entire range of road feedback. The V6 is obviously towards the numb side of things due to the suspension and chassis setup. If you wanted more, you should have gotten the V6 1LE model, that would probably do it, with the SS chassis and brakes minus the SS engine. Better tires will help, but your main culprits are going to be softer spring rates paired to softer shocks, weak anti-sway bars and less chassis reinforcement. You'll get much more direct steering inputs and "feedback" if these things are beefed up. It's not super cheap, but some cars are easier to do this on than others, putting stiffer swaybars in my old gen5 was not bad and only took a couple hours. If you get stiffer springs (which are usually lower), you somehow need stiffer shocks, such as SS struts if they will fit, or the best solution, coil-overs. Doing these (sways, coil-overs) and adding a few chassis braces like strut and other, combined with some good non-run-flat performance tires, you'd have a tight fun chassis that provides good feedback.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 01-12-2018, 10:27 AM

JamesNoBrakes just gave me an idea - I think they packaged the V6 1LE kit for sale aftermarket - might be something to look into...takes all the guesswork out of it.

kropscamaro16 · 01-15-2018, 06:56 PM

quick answer yes lol

01-11-2018, 10:31 PM	#1
T32803 Drives: Sold it Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: US Posts: 126	I wish the Camaro had better road feedback. Do diff tires help ? I came from a G35 and I loved the road feedback through the steering wheel as made me feel connected to the road and made driving more fun. The Camaro feels numb in this regard. It's probably the biggest flaw I can point out with the car (more so than the limited visibility out the windshield). I tried Sport and Touring modes for steering and both feel decoupled from the road. Has anyone found the connection to the road through the steering wheel get better when you shed those nasty/loud sounding goodyears ? I've owned a bunch of cars and these are the worst tires I ever had on a new car.

01-12-2018, 08:33 AM	#9
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,873 View My Garage	It's been a while, and I forget, does the LT have driving modes? Sport/Tour/etc? Last time I drove the LT, I thought the feedback was pretty good. Another thought - what tires do you have, all-season, or summer? __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

01-12-2018, 09:01 AM	#11
Chez Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: PA Posts: 132	The stock runflats are trash. Try a good summer tire and it will make a big difference. __________________ Traded-2017 1LT V6 GMPP Intake, Flowmaster American Thunder axle-back, Vmax Ported throttle body, ZL1/1LE sway bars, V6 1LE Suspension,SEMA grille, Blade spoiler, Apex PS-7 18x10

01-12-2018, 10:27 AM	#13
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,873 View My Garage	JamesNoBrakes just gave me an idea - I think they packaged the V6 1LE kit for sale aftermarket - might be something to look into...takes all the guesswork out of it. __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

01-15-2018, 06:56 PM	#14
kropscamaro16 Drives: 2016 1ss camaro Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: 909 Posts: 10,130	quick answer yes lol __________________ 16 1SS NIGHTFALL GRAY METALLIC WITH NPP #BECAUSERACECAR #SAVETHEMANUALS

01-11-2018, 10:33 PM	#2
Chevyman2 Drives: 2018 zl1 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Caswell County, NC Posts: 599 View My Garage	Think the zl1 provides ample feedback.

01-12-2018, 01:15 AM	#7
WhyUMad1LE Drives: 17 SS 1LE Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 1,920	The V6 doesn't have all the structural reinforcement from the V8 models. Maybe try a strut brace? http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=517935

01-12-2018, 08:07 AM	#8
Gen6 softtop Drives: Hyper blue 1ss convertible 6 sp Join Date: May 2017 Location: Munger mi Posts: 205	The SS feels glued to the road with very good feed back also good mpg for the hp. Honestly if you bought the v6 and not the LE your driving a basic car that looks sporty that's it!

01-12-2018, 08:39 AM	#10
Yellow6thGen 18 ZL1 A10 Convertible Drives: White ZL1 Convertible Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Mooresville, NC Posts: 410 View My Garage	I’m getting 17.5-23mpg in my ZL1 guess it’s all in how you drive it. Mine is better than my 16 SS!

01-12-2018, 10:08 AM	#12
JamesNoBrakes Drives: 2SS 1LE Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: AK Posts: 2,377	From the ZL1-1LE to the 4cyl rental fleet, you'll get an entire range of road feedback. The V6 is obviously towards the numb side of things due to the suspension and chassis setup. If you wanted more, you should have gotten the V6 1LE model, that would probably do it, with the SS chassis and brakes minus the SS engine. Better tires will help, but your main culprits are going to be softer spring rates paired to softer shocks, weak anti-sway bars and less chassis reinforcement. You'll get much more direct steering inputs and "feedback" if these things are beefed up. It's not super cheap, but some cars are easier to do this on than others, putting stiffer swaybars in my old gen5 was not bad and only took a couple hours. If you get stiffer springs (which are usually lower), you somehow need stiffer shocks, such as SS struts if they will fit, or the best solution, coil-overs. Doing these (sways, coil-overs) and adding a few chassis braces like strut and other, combined with some good non-run-flat performance tires, you'd have a tight fun chassis that provides good feedback.

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