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Old 01-06-2018, 05:48 AM   #1247
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Looks like the GT FINALLY won at something.
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Old 01-06-2018, 08:20 AM   #1248
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Looks like the GT FINALLY won at something.
The LT1 won this award two consecutive years. 2014 and 2015. Still catching up

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DETROIT (Wednesday, December 10, 2014) – The high performance, technology-packed LT1 Small Block 6.2L V8 that powers the 2015 Corvette Stingray is a Ward’s 10 Best Engine for 2015. The engine also was recognized with this award in 2014.

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Old 01-06-2018, 09:44 AM   #1249
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. It’s got a full tenth or so 60ft advantage over a mustang GT and it’s feminine powerband. But low end torque doesn’t matter right? Is that why all the fast auto mustangs need a converter ? Lol
True , but the coyote doesn't need heads and/or cam to run similar times because it doesn't have COPD at 6500 so it all balances out I spose
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Old 01-06-2018, 10:42 AM   #1250
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The LT1 won this award two consecutive years. 2014 and 2015. Still catching up
And the 5.0 won it in 2011 and 2012..

GM was late to that party
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Old 01-06-2018, 11:19 AM   #1251
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True , but the coyote doesn't need heads and/or cam to run similar times because it doesn't have COPD at 6500 so it all balances out I spose
I’m faster than every s550 on the list besides the mineshaft air gutted converter car on ftw purple, pulleys and ewp with full Suspension gears and trans brake. With a literal bolt on car. I’ve never considered a converter a bolt on. I have stock suspension no gears pump E85. Near full weight with 260 lb driver. Good air but nothing crazy around -100

A heads cam lt1 is capable of 600 rwhp (very close already with just stock ported heads and mild cam) and 9 second passes. Without being a gutted POS race car. Just wait

Mod for mod NA 6g greater than 15-17 s550. The 18+ May change that.
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Old 01-06-2018, 11:31 AM   #1252
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And the 5.0 won it in 2011 and 2012..

GM was late to that party
When did the 5.0 get direct injection? 2018. Now the GT* can keep up with a SS.

A better play would have been to mention dual injection but GM has that for 2018 also in the LT5.

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Old 01-06-2018, 12:55 PM   #1253
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And the 5.0 won it in 2011 and 2012..

GM was late to that party
And the SBC is the goat. Ford never arrived at that party.

See what I did there
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Old 01-06-2018, 02:01 PM   #1254
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I’m faster than every s550 on the list besides the mineshaft air gutted converter car on ftw purple, pulleys and ewp with full Suspension gears and trans brake. With a literal bolt on car. I’ve never considered a converter a bolt on. I have stock suspension no gears pump E85. Near full weight with 260 lb driver. Good air but nothing crazy around -100
regardless of what you may consider. a Converter is a bolt on...according to you're own fast list.

you were also .03 faster than the #2 BO S550 despite being both .1 slower in 60' and being down 1.5mph in the 1/4. That s550 picked up 26.59 on the back half to your 23.32 yet you came around him? LOL , you had one hell of a 330-660 or that guys car had a horrible one.

and that #1 bolt on s550 was faster than all but one of the 600whp capable c6 BO+IM cars on the fast list save one that it was .04 slower than.

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Old 01-06-2018, 05:13 PM   #1255
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regardless of what you may consider. a Converter is a bolt on...according to you're own fast list.

you were also .03 faster than the #2 BO S550 despite being both .1 slower in 60' and being down 1.5mph in the 1/4. That s550 picked up 26.59 on the back half to your 23.32 yet you came around him? LOL , you had one hell of a 330-660 or that guys car had a horrible one.

and that #1 bolt on s550 was faster than all but one of the 600whp capable c6 BO+IM cars on the fast list save one that it was .04 slower than.
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Old 01-06-2018, 08:22 PM   #1256
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agreed. If we can also agree that 12.6 and 0-6 of 4.6 is not the norm either, aka edmunds soccer mom run?
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Considering that the 15-17 was a minor step back in straight line performance for the Mustang, you can't fault the enthusaists for being thrilled at the early returns on this new model, especially with the A10.
Yeah, I do agree here and have said I understand the excitement with the refresh. It's not an excuse for trolling, but it is great to see some improvement in the platform.

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But I agree it will be a wait and see, and in either car's case they are close enough that the driver, and condition of the track will swing it either way.
My opinion is they will be so very close in real life conditions that it will always be a drivers race, but all things equal(impossible) the Camaro is just a faster car.
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Old 01-06-2018, 11:12 PM   #1257
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regardless of what you may consider. a Converter is a bolt on...according to you're own fast list.

you were also .03 faster than the #2 BO S550 despite being both .1 slower in 60' and being down 1.5mph in the 1/4. That s550 picked up 26.59 on the back half to your 23.32 yet you came around him? LOL , you had one hell of a 330-660 or that guys car had a horrible one.

and that #1 bolt on s550 was faster than all but one of the 600whp capable c6 BO+IM cars on the fast list save one that it was .04 slower than.
Not sure what you are getting at comparing slips. My car has run tens in 70 degree weather. Comparing back half on different tracks and weather is a joke. I went faster end of story. Without a converter and in higher DA. Pretty funny

That #2 car also had a large DA advantage over me. I have two passes on my setup and shift points not even dialed in. I’ve back halved 25 + on other passes as well. If you look at my thread from that pass that lane was reading a lower mph all night

What it only took for my car to run tens is ridiculous. A 15-17 s550 is not capable of the the same apples to apples period. Do only what I have done to my car at 3700+ lbs on a 15-17 s550 same track and day and you got nothing for me.End of story

You think you are talking to an amateur ? A GT with only my mods is an 11.5 car at my tracks. I shit on them. It’s not even close

If they pull weight, run ftw and a converter it gets interesting. Other than that nope sorry. That’s reality
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Old 01-07-2018, 01:19 AM   #1258
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My opinion is they will be so very close in real life conditions that it will always be a drivers race, but all things equal(impossible) the Camaro is just a faster car.
Perhaps, but the mustang consistently trapping 3-5 mph higher on these early runs might say otherwise
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Old 01-07-2018, 02:32 AM   #1259
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Perhaps, but the mustang consistently trapping 3-5 mph higher on these early runs might say otherwise
The Camaro actually being faster might say otherwise too...
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Old 01-07-2018, 07:23 AM   #1260
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The Camaro actually being faster might say otherwise too...
I just thought of this thread this morning from our talk on the other thread. Seems as though the Mustang is aways just a little behind. This was a great run. Faster than what I could ever get out of my 2012 ZL1 at the beaver. Although, I never got to run it in ultimate conditions or track prep.
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