Storing car with suspension unloaded - Page 2

hammdo · 12-28-2017, 08:49 PM

I use flatstoppers:

https://raceramps.com/car-ramps/car-.../flatstoppers/

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...postcount=1021

But really only sits about 3 weeks in the winter here in Dallas (around the holidays)...

-Don

camaro5 · 12-28-2017, 10:29 PM

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You’re going to want to raise the vehicle up. You want to get the weight of the vehicle up off of the tires, because that will destroy the tires over time.

That means you’ll need jack stands or some sort of supporting device. On a vehicle, you want the jack stands out as close to the wheels as is possible.

Because you want the springs compressed.

You do not want them hanging down and unloaded. Which can damage them over time.

http://www.motorweek.org/features/go...g_term_storage

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A big problem for cars is the tires on them, they tend to flat spot when they’re sitting.

Now the old tried and true way to do it is to use jack stands, one at each corner, as close to the wheels as is possible.

This prevents that. Under this BMW we have something new.

It’s called a tire cradle, and the manufacturer says that it will prevent flat spotting.

http://www.motorweek.org/features/go...ge/winterizing

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Zl1dad · 12-29-2017, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by rjacobs

You've obviously never purchased shocks/struts from a store... they are banded in the compressed position.

You obviously don't know what a LOADED strut is. That means spring is compressed on strut already but not with vehicle weight.

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Zl1dad · 12-29-2017, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by HDRDTD

Back when the 5th gen ZL1's came out, Goodyear had posted a recommendation for the tires that recommended not driving on them under 40 degrees F, to not even store them at temps less than 20 degrees F.

Evidently the tires were subject to sidewall cracking under those conditions, so many of us that don't have a heated garage, would take the stock tires/wheels off during the winter months and store them indoors.

I have no idea if those same recommendations apply to the tires that come on the 6th gen ZL1's, but perhaps that's where the OP's worries came from ?

Exactly sir

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awh3r · 12-30-2017, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JeffFox

As advised by my dealer I park the Camaro on rubber matts for the winter. I was advised "hanging" the wheels/leaving the car on jackstands may expose the strut shafts to the elements and if done this way grease should be applied to the exposed part of the shafts to prevent rusting. Of course with the weight of the wheels and tires removed the exposed length of each shaft would be lessened. Hope this helps. I do not use jackstands for winter storeage.

Can you tell me where you got your mats? Are they specifically made for this purpose? I have my ZL1 in a heated garage however i am concerned that the tires will develop flat spots. Thank you for your help.

motorhead · 12-30-2017, 07:10 AM

The car was bult and design to spend its life on its tires. It was only designed to be on its jacking points for short periods of time. Ive been storing cars for many years as friends of mine do too. Non of us have ever lifed a car to store it. I have never seen an valid reason to do so. I can only see reasons way its a bad idea. Number one being the chance if it coming off and falling. No chance of damage while sitting on its own shoes.

JB'sZL1 · 12-30-2017, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by awh3r

Can you tell me where you got your mats? Are they specifically made for this purpose? I have my ZL1 in a heated garage however i am concerned that the tires will develop flat spots. Thank you for your help.

Google flatstoppers or other brands. Can be had at Amazon, EBay or other vendors.

JeffFox · 01-01-2018, 12:03 AM

Can you tell me where you got your mats? Are they specifically made for this purpose? I have my ZL1 in a heated garage however i am concerned that the tires will develop flat spots. Thank you for your help.

I use these, they seem a bit thin but worked fine: https://www.amazon.com/exercise-tile...ssx%3Arelevanc

CruzySS · 01-01-2018, 12:26 AM

The tires will not crack below 20 degrees just sitting there. Only if you try and move it. Had tires exposed to ( -25) degrees.. yes negative 25 degrees.. with no cracking of any sort.

wwiiavfan · 01-01-2018, 09:06 AM

Best of both worlds. Had these made locally for about $150.

Soleil · 01-01-2018, 09:40 AM

Wow this is perfect

how thick is the plate?

JeffFox · 01-01-2018, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CruzySS

The tires will not crack below 20 degrees just sitting there. Only if you try and move it. Had tires exposed to ( -25) degrees.. yes negative 25 degrees.. with no cracking of any sort.

That is my understanding also.

wwiiavfan · 01-01-2018, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Soleil

Wow this is perfect

how thick is the plate?

1/4” thick mild steel.

motorhead · 01-01-2018, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by wwiiavfan

Best of both worlds. Had these made locally for about $150.

I love this idea. Keeps the car safely planted as it was designed and keeps it's shoes round.

Great idea.

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12-30-2017, 07:10 AM	#20
motorhead Drives: Love the one you're with Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Downtown Charlie Brown Posts: 11,850	The car was bult and design to spend its life on its tires. It was only designed to be on its jacking points for short periods of time. Ive been storing cars for many years as friends of mine do too. Non of us have ever lifed a car to store it. I have never seen an valid reason to do so. I can only see reasons way its a bad idea. Number one being the chance if it coming off and falling. No chance of damage while sitting on its own shoes.

01-01-2018, 12:03 AM	#22
JeffFox Drives: 2018 2SS Coupe A8 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Menomonee Falls WI Posts: 213 View My Garage	Can you tell me where you got your mats? Are they specifically made for this purpose? I have my ZL1 in a heated garage however i am concerned that the tires will develop flat spots. Thank you for your help. I use these, they seem a bit thin but worked fine: https://www.amazon.com/exercise-tile...ssx%3Arelevanc

01-01-2018, 12:26 AM	#23
CruzySS Drives: 2016 Camaro 2ss Join Date: May 2017 Location: Annandale MN Posts: 588 View My Garage	The tires will not crack below 20 degrees just sitting there. Only if you try and move it. Had tires exposed to ( -25) degrees.. yes negative 25 degrees.. with no cracking of any sort.

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