[jmackisback]

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...al-test-review

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"In testing, our six-speed manual (a 10-speed automatic is optional) matched the zero-to-60 time of the outgoing car at 4.3 seconds but opened 0.3-second and 3-mph gaps through the quarter-mile with a 12.6-second run at 115 mph. By 150 mph, the new GT was 2.4 seconds quicker. The extra power isn’t glaringly obvious, but it gives the GT barstool bragging rights over the 455-hp Camaro SS. Just know that if the argument spills into the streets, the Chevy is still quicker."

[Spartan268]

Originally Posted by oldman

I've seen so little actually working and drivable twin turbo anything in my life, and even less at the tracks or autoX. So the word "easy" probably should not come in the same sentence as twin turbo. The reality is greater than the friction. Sure I love turbo, love twin turbo even more. I'm just pointing out that for DD crowded it is more myth than reality. Sure I expect you and others to post about how turn key 100% reliable etc a TT setup is. Not in my experience or world, glad it maybe in yours. Point being as soon as you bring up TT in a STOCK NA debate.... your cause is lost.

So true. Almost every car I know of around this area with twins (That was originally N/A) always end with the same something got blown story. Supercharger as well but to a lesser extent since everyone seems to ignore it. We'll see how my friends whipple build take him down the road on his 16' GT. It'll be interesting considering he beats his car during hooligan stuff.

[kttxz06]

Originally Posted by Gunmetalmissle

The Car and driver instrumented test numbers are up for the 18 GT. 12.6 @115. The comparo must be coming soon.

“The extra power isn’t glaringly obvious, but it gives the GT barstool bragging rights over the 455-hp Camaro SS. Just know that if the argument spills into the streets, the Chevy is still quicker.”

^ Just as we all predicted. 12.6 will be your above avg run with MOST runs still being in the high 12's, low 13's. Only hero runs will hit low 12's.

And that is what Ford fanboys all across the universe were claiming would slay the Camaro. Well, looks like it's on par................at best with the Camaro. So, Ford...............failed bigly on this one. There's always the next GT. Maybe they'll get it right one of these days.

[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by jmackisback

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...al-test-review

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Actually that seems to be a really glowing review, and if you compare it with the oft-quoted performance times of 13.0/113MPH that people throw around here..that's a pretty considerable improvement.

[kttxz06]

In testing, our six-speed manual (a 10-speed automatic is optional) matched the zero-to-60 time of the outgoing car at 4.3 seconds but opened 0.3-second and 3-mph gaps through the quarter-mile with a 12.6-second run at 115 mph. By 150 mph, the new GT was 2.4 seconds quicker. The extra power isn’t glaringly obvious, but it gives the GT barstool bragging rights over the 455-hp Camaro SS. Just know that if the argument spills into the streets, the Chevy is still quicker.

Fall...............on..................your....... .......face. Splat. Bravo Ford. Bravo. Up against a 3 yr old Maro too. Wait till the refresh comes out and the Maro gets a 15-20 hp bump. It's really gonna squash it.

[kttxz06]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

Actually that seems to be a really glowing review, and if you compare it with the oft-quoted performance times of 13.0/113MPH that people throw around here..that's a pretty considerable improvement.

True. Point well taken. The problem is this.................for the past 6 months. Ford fanboys have been waiting. Holding their breathe. Hoping. Just praying. More hoping. More praying. And in the back of their heads, they told themselves..........THIS Mustang GT would change the game. It would slay Camaro's and bring justice back to the world. When, in all reality, it's just a fkn Camaro SS. haha. They did nothing.........well, very little, to bring the Mustang GT to the forefront. They failed. Is it better than the last GT? Oh, hell yea. But, is it what everyone else was expecting? Nope. Not by a long shot. So, they win the argument that it's better than the last GT, but it's on par.................at best with the Camaro SS which is now 3 yrs old. So, a big step back and FAIL is written all over it. Just saying.

Now, we have to deal with the............well, a tune and tire and you Zl1 owners better watch out. It's gotten borderline fkn comical from the Ford camp. And why? Because one hero did a hero run on a prepped track in ideal air. Now, that riled the Mustang crowd up thinking the GT was out the box a 12.2 car. So, they took that 12.2. Figured, hey, if we e85/tuned/tired, we'd smash Zl1's. Well, sorry. That hasn't happened. Now, we are reading that............if you e85/tune/exhaust/tire, and start taking seats out, it's a 10 second car. THIS IS WHY................Mustang owners for the most part deserve the crack back from the Maro camp. It's funny to watch them all run and hide now.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by Gunmetalmissle

The Car and driver instrumented test numbers are up for the 18 GT. 12.6 @115. The comparo must be coming soon.

“The extra power isn’t glaringly obvious, but it gives the GT barstool bragging rights over the 455-hp Camaro SS. Just know that if the argument spills into the streets, the Chevy is still quicker.”

Manual transmission but still a big ouch for the Mustang fans in the last sentence of that quote

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...al-test-review

[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by kttxz06

In testing, our six-speed manual (a 10-speed automatic is optional) matched the zero-to-60 time of the outgoing car at 4.3 seconds but opened 0.3-second and 3-mph gaps through the quarter-mile with a 12.6-second run at 115 mph. By 150 mph, the new GT was 2.4 seconds quicker. The extra power isn’t glaringly obvious, but it gives the GT barstool bragging rights over the 455-hp Camaro SS. Just know that if the argument spills into the streets, the Chevy is still quicker.

Fall...............on..................your....... .......face. Splat. Bravo Ford. Bravo. Up against a 3 yr old Maro too. Wait till the refresh comes out and the Maro gets a 15-20 hp bump. It's really gonna squash it.

Why would the Camaro get bump now when the Corvette never has, even in the GrandSport. It's more likely to maintain it's stock power levels through the end of this generation.

[jmackisback]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

Actually that seems to be a really glowing review, and if you compare it with the oft-quoted performance times of 13.0/113MPH that people throw around here..that's a pretty considerable improvement.

I lol'd because of the hype the Ford fan boys have been creating the past couple of months. Better than the previous years? For sure. Great? Not really.

[kttxz06]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

Why would the Camaro get bump now when the Corvette never has, even in the GrandSport. It's more likely to maintain it's stock power levels through the end of this generation.

Even so, that makes it look even worse for the Ford Mustang crowd. The refresh will have some kind of hp bump. Don't care about what the Vette camp is doing right now.

I'm still waiting on a '18 GT to come slay my Zl1. I have a feeling I'll be waiting a long long long time.

[kttxz06]

Originally Posted by jmackisback

I lol'd because of the hype the Ford fan boys have been creating the past couple of months. Better than the previous years? For sure. Great? Not really.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

Actually that seems to be a really glowing review, and if you compare it with the oft-quoted performance times of 13.0/113MPH that people throw around here..that's a pretty considerable improvement.

Isn't the new GT suppose to be a Corvette Stingray killer? High 11s all day long?

[kttxz06]

Originally Posted by hotlap

Isn't the new GT suppose to be a Corvette Stingray killer? High 11s all day long?

Well, now, it's supposed to be a 10 second car. You just need e85/tune/tires/exhaust/intake/ and take the seats out. The Mustang crowd is comedy central at best.

That's like me taking my Zl1. Throwing $10k in it and ripping all the fkn interior out going over to the McLaren forums and calling out all the 720's. Telling them I'm gonna slay the 720 s. Imagine their response.

[Spartan268]

One thing I do want to point out. Were they testing with they yellow stang? Cause it has the Michelin PS4S.. I remember a lot of people were saying the Edmunds test was hampered by bad driver and tires. Here it looks like tires has been solved but it still got the same sprint of 12.6 seconds..

13vertss/r's clarified edmunds was auto. Got it confused