[ChicagoTommy]

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73437

I think I might be heading back to the Ford side. Got damn that is gettin' it. Oh well, I wanted another Raptor anyway! Anyone wanna buy a 2014 Cadillac ATS, a 2015 Chevy SS, and a 2017 Camaro?

[Evil-Bee-NH]

I'll stick with my Camaro thank you. If we had the funds to do what they have to that car we'd probably hit that aswell.

[Jason@JacFab]

That's quick. That dude has a lot of money in that car. I don't need to go that fast. I'd be happy with mid to low 12s.

15+ SS Sedan with a manual is one of my dream cars... But due to cost I'll stick with my modded G8 GT

[Goobaba]

I don't know if you can call it an Ecoboost if there are no factory parts left lol

[ChicagoTommy]

Originally Posted by Goobaba

I don't know if you can call it an Ecoboost if there are no factory parts left lol

Still running a factory produced 2.3L Lima block. So there is that.

Regardless, it sucks that we get less than 5% of the aftermarket support they do. When will one of the big Gen 5/6 vendors smarten up and realize people want to fork over money for parts for these cars?

UPR is doing it right in my opinion. Lead by example. Then you can sell a heck of a lot of parts.

[RenegadeSS]

Originally Posted by ChicagoTommy

Still running a factory produced 2.3L Lima block. So there is that.

Regardless, it sucks that we get less than 5% of the aftermarket support they do. When will one of the big Gen 5/6 vendors smarten up and realize people want to fork over money for parts for these cars?

UPR is doing it right in my opinion. Lead by example. Then you can sell a heck of a lot of parts.

Well here is a company dedicated to the ecotec platform. http://zzperformance.com/ats/engine.html You still have Vermont tuning, Mishimoto, Performance auto works, and many more. It's just that this is a new car. Give it sometime, and you will see the same.

[Ashium]

Let's see.... well for starters the brilliant minds at GM made the 2.0t the bottom of the line car. It wasn't even supposed to compete with the ecoboost. This engine, in a sports car hasn't been out that long. Most people that buy GM products have the caveman mind set "bigger better". In time stuff will happen. Its kind of foolish to use an extreme example like that mustang against a new market.
Take your 2.0, gut it, give it a 75shot, slicks and tune it on Q16. If the driveline can hold out, you'll lay down some amazing et's.

[Arka]

Just wait for Mitsubishi new Turbo presented by Phastek. You ll reach 480 HP on the 2.0. Anyway, you ll have to modify all the engine like they did for Mustang. Everything is possible if you got the money.

[Evil-Bee-NH]

ZZP has all the engine internals for sale now to go with a larger turbo. The issue will be the fuel pump but I imagine jut dropping in an SS pump might work.

[Nate...]

Originally Posted by Evil-Bee-NH

ZZP has all the engine internals for sale now to go with a larger turbo. The issue will be the fuel pump but I imagine jut dropping in an SS pump might work.

You're saying you imagine the LT1 DI pump will bolt up to the LTG?

[ChicagoTommy]

Originally Posted by Nate...

You're saying you imagine the LT1 DI pump will bolt up to the LTG?

Don't mind him, he has no clue about anything mechanical. I believe he is talking about the in tank low pressure fuel pump, which I highly doubt is any different than the low pressure fuel pump in the I4 or V6.

No, the LT1 high pressure fuel pump will not work with the LTG. The only way to get more out of the HPFP is to change the cam lobe that runs the pump. ZZP does offer this on their Stage 2 cams.

[Nate...]

Originally Posted by ChicagoTommy

Don't mind him, he has no clue about anything mechanical. I believe he is talking about the in tank low pressure fuel pump, which I highly doubt is any different than the low pressure fuel pump in the I4 or V6.

No, the LT1 high pressure fuel pump will not work with the LTG. The only way to get more out of the HPFP is to change the cam lobe that runs the pump. ZZP does offer this on their Stage 2 cams.

Ya, I was aware of the ZZP cam but no other way of increasing HPFP volume. I was also hoping that my questioning would bring Evil-Bee to research a little more and discover this on his own. Haha. No stress.

[Evil-Bee-NH]

Wether or not i'm mechanically inclined isn't the issue. I clearly stated "Might" work which clearly states i'm not inclined to know but be a typical all knowing obnoxious gearhead all you want tommy it's amusing to me eventhough you can't read thus until it's quoted because your well you. Nate... it isn't an issue of doing research even Tommy didn't actually give an answer just an option that could work with the cam lope. He also answered my question and reaffirmed my statement that ZZP has parts to achieve this so in a funny all to amusing way he answered all our questions while continuing his war against me. Guess it was a win for everyone. to get a 480hp LTG Camaro "SAFELY" will likely require the forged internals being put on the market by ZZP.

I did assume we had ended this little war back and forth but that's fine clearly we both have time.

[ChicagoTommy]

Originally Posted by RenegadeSS

Well here is a company dedicated to the ecotec platform. http://zzperformance.com/ats/engine.html You still have Vermont tuning, Mishimoto, Performance auto works, and many more. It's just that this is a new car. Give it sometime, and you will see the same.

I'm very familiar with ZZP. They've been saying they are gonna build the first 1000hp LTG for years. At this point, there's still no product. VT isn't my cup of tea, never really impressed me and their prices are insane. Mishimoto only has a catch can out, so that's really no help. I'll look into Performance Auto Works. But this is the crux of the problem, lack of aftermarket support. We really need one of the BIG LS tuners to support the LTG. UPR and Lund are both big time Ford V8 companies getting behind the ecoboost. Finally, this isn't a new thing. The LTG has been out for over 4 years at this point, and it's not that different from the LHU and it's predecessor. It's not made with pixie dust, unicorn horns, and magic. Most every turbo car made benefits from the same upgrades. Bigger turbo, intercooler, fueling.

Originally Posted by Ashiu

Let's see.... well for starters the brilliant minds at GM made the 2.0t the bottom of the line car. It wasn't even supposed to compete with the ecoboost. This engine, in a sports car hasn't been out that long. Most people that buy GM products have the caveman mind set "bigger better". In time stuff will happen. Its kind of foolish to use an extreme example like that mustang against a new market.
Take your 2.0, gut it, give it a 75shot, slicks and tune it on Q16. If the driveline can hold out, you'll lay down some amazing et's.

Yeah, but in reality, no one cares where GM slotted the car. LTG was gonna compete against Ecoboost no matter what. That's just common sense. Time really isn't an excuse at this point. Yes, the Camaro is 2 model years old, but the LTG is over 4, turbo ecotec's have been out for 10, and the TD-04 turbo has been around since the dinosaurs. Also, I do plan on eventually gutting the car and going max effort. That will probably be 2018 season. I plan on selling my place in Chicago and moving somewhere with some land and either a 3 car garage or an out building. It will be much easier to facilitate these things then.

Originally Posted by Arka

Just wait for Mitsubishi new Turbo presented by Phastek. You ll reach 480 HP on the 2.0. Anyway, you ll have to modify all the engine like they did for Mustang. Everything is possible if you got the money.

Yeah, and I'm not afraid of putting in rods/pistons. That is just cheap insurance. Believe it or not, people have made 400whp on stock pistons. I wouldn't try, but it has been done. I can guarantee I'll have one of those first turbos!