[NASTY99Z28]

The manual cars still need a bump in rear gear to cross the traps around redline.

[GearheadSS]

It will be faster than the M6.

[Blackdevil77]

As others have said, with the 8 speeds and super short 1st and second gear, the rear end ratio doesn't have to be 3.73. The gears in the auto compensate for it.

Originally Posted by GearheadSS

It will be faster than the M6.

Yes it will. I'm very curious to see how much faster. I wonder if it'll be as dramatic as the 8 speed auto Hellcat vs. the manual Hellcat.

[SpeedIsLife]

I've driven a A8 Scat Pack and I assure you...taller final drive ratios are quickly are easily negated with how aggressively geared that transmission is.

With the automatic the new Camaro is going to pull like crazy out of the hole and up top

[GearheadSS]

Originally Posted by Blackdevil77

As others have said, with the 8 speeds and super short 1st and second gear, the rear end ratio doesn't have to be 3.73. The gears in the auto compensate for it.



Yes it will. I'm very curious to see how much faster. I wonder if it'll be as dramatic as the 8 speed auto Hellcat vs. the manual Hellcat.

Probably not. In the ATS-V, it's pretty close but the 8 spd auto is faster.

[vtirocz]

Originally Posted by Blackdevil77

As others have said, with the 8 speeds and super short 1st and second gear, the rear end ratio doesn't have to be 3.73. The gears in the auto compensate for it.



Yes it will. I'm very curious to see how much faster. I wonder if it'll be as dramatic as the 8 speed auto Hellcat vs. the manual Hellcat.

See this post comparing the M7 vs A8 Stingray acceleration. I'd expect the M6 vs A8 Camaro SS will be similar.

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showpo...0&postcount=37

[Blackdevil77]

Originally Posted by GearheadSS

Probably not. In the ATS-V, it's pretty close but the 8 spd auto is faster.

Originally Posted by vtirocz

See this post comparing the M7 vs A8 Stingray acceleration. I'd expect the M6 vs A8 Camaro SS will be similar.

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showpo...0&postcount=37

Excellent! I wanted a manual anyway, I don't feel as bad about getting the stick now lol.

[Curr]

Originally Posted by Blackdevil77

Excellent! I wanted a manual anyway, I don't feel as bad about getting the stick now lol.

Don't, at all.

Unless the same pro is racing both cars on the same track at the same day, the times between the manual and auto are close enough where it's a drivers race every time.

It'll come down to do you wanna row your own, or let the car do it's thing.

[ParisTNDude]

Originally Posted by cyberbro

AutoTrans comes w/ rear axle, 2.77 ratio
Gas mileage move? not going to be very aggressive with that.

My 2006 C6 Corvette had that ratio and it ran right at 11.99 with bolt ons. Never had any trouble launching and it was fun to beat most Mustangs and all of the Dodge Hemis. The auto's transmission gear ratios made it very competitive with the manual transmission C6s with 3:42s or whatever they are.

[cyberbro]

Originally Posted by vtirocz

See this post comparing the M7 vs A8 Stingray acceleration. I'd expect the M6 vs A8 Camaro SS will be similar.

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showpo...0&postcount=37

I'm wondering if the new SS (auto) could pull off a 4 second 0 to 60 based on this (C7 run)? more likely 4.2 ish I would guess

[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by cyberbro

I'm wondering if the new SS (auto) could pull off a 4 second 0 to 60 based on this (C7 run)? more likely 4.2 ish I would guess

If a 4200lb Challenger can do it in 4.5 I'm sure a Camaro that is 400 lbs less can do it in about 4.2

[NASTY99Z28]

Originally Posted by Curr

Don't, at all.

Unless the same pro is racing both cars on the same track at the same day, the times between the manual and auto are close enough where it's a drivers race every time.

It'll come down to do you wanna row your own, or let the car do it's thing.

Not true. A pro could come close to the same times but an average driver would have a hard time post times within a few tenths of each other. Most people struggle with launching a high powered car on stock tires. Autos are very easy and anyone can simply smash the pedal. Plus the manual car will need gears to be in the proper rpm in 4th.

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by Curr

Don't, at all.

Unless the same pro is racing both cars on the same track at the same day, the times between the manual and auto are close enough where it's a drivers race every time.

It'll come down to do you wanna row your own, or let the car do it's thing.

Half a sec in the 1/4 is a driver's race (in the ATS-V tests)? That's about 5 car lengths. That's a pretty big margin. I can see a couple of tenths, but the manual driver is by the most likely to screw up. Anything is possible but to me a driver's race is a much smaller margin.

[vtirocz]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

Half a sec in the 1/4 is a driver's race (in the ATS-V tests)? That's about 5 car lengths. That's a pretty big margin. I can see a couple of tenths, but the manual driver is by the most likely to screw up. Anything is possible but to me a driver's race is a much smaller margin.

I think he was basing that on the Stingray auto vs manual comparison where there's only a 0.2s difference in the 1/4 and all of that was in the launch (0-30). After 30 the manual was just as fast or faster.

I think the auto shows a bigger difference on the ats-v since it would allow the turbo to get spooled up at launch. With the lt1, as seen on the vette, the difference will be smaller between the two trans options.