[Stew]

Originally Posted by Blue Maro Demon

Obviously you have never heard or seen Chevy's new My Link system its like Fords Sync but better and the new Cadillac CUE system is better than anything Ford has done if that were put into a next gen Camaro it would be over.

What exactly makes them better?

[Blue Maro Demon]

Originally Posted by yotaman96

So our pushrods engines are new technology? Have you looked at a new GT500? There is nothing boring about them. They look great. Much better than a GT.

Yeah the GT500 looks good but next to a Camaro ZL1 90% of the population of car buyers will pick the ZL1 based on looks alone. While yeah the GT500 looks better than all other Mustangs to most people it is still just another Mustang just dressed up to look nicer. Yeah you could say something similar to the ZL1 but it has a design edge that the Mustang doesnt have at the moment we will have to wait and see what Ford does design wise with the new 6th Gen Mustang. Even then I would be scared to plop down money on a new gen Mustang when more than likely the following year the new Camaro will come out looking better and being faster. And as far as the engines go yeah what Ford is able to do with their 5.8 is impressive but Chevrolet is bringing its next gen V8's next year they are just getting by with what they have for now.

[Blue Maro Demon]

Originally Posted by Stew

What exactly makes them better?

You havent seen the new CUE system? It has digital gauges and everything. I havent seen any tech like this from Ford or many others in the market for that matter. And many people dont like Fords Sync system thats a fact from the many people that complain about it not responding to commands accordingly there is supposed to be none of that with MyLink and CUE they are designed for user easability. The new MYLINK is suppossed to be showing up in many new Chevrolets soon.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by Blue Maro Demon

Yeah the GT500 looks good but next to a Camaro ZL1 90% of the population of car buyers will pick the ZL1 based on looks alone. While yeah the GT500 looks better than all other Mustangs to most people it is still just another Mustang just dressed up to look nicer. Yeah you could say something similar to the ZL1 but it has a design edge that the Mustang doesnt have at the moment we will have to wait and see what Ford does design wise with the new 6th Gen Mustang. Even then I would be scared to plop down money on a new gen Mustang when more than likely the following year the new Camaro will come out looking better and being faster. And as far as the engines go yeah what Ford is able to do with their 5.8 is impressive but Chevrolet is bringing its next gen V8's next year they are just getting by with what they have for now.

A lot more conjecture, because you think the Camaro looks better does not mean 90% of population will. And more conjecture on 2 cars not within 4 years of being made..........

[Stew]

Originally Posted by Blue Maro Demon

You havent seen the new CUE system? It has digital gauges and everything. I havent seen any tech like this from Ford or many others in the market for that matter. And many people dont like Fords Sync system thats a fact from the many people that complain about it not responding to commands accordingly there is supposed to be none of that with MyLink and CUE they are designed for user easability. The new MYLINK is suppossed to be showing up in many new Chevrolets soon.

You realize Ford has fixed the mytouch system right? MyLink is ok, but nothing special in this day and age, sorry. From what i have seen of it, it is hardly the easiest to use out there BTW.

[Blue Maro Demon]

Originally Posted by Stew

A lot more conjecture, because you think the Camaro looks better does not mean 90% of population will. And more conjecture on 2 cars not within 4 years of being made..........

Oh really it doesnt mean 90% of the population????

So if I park a new Camaro & a new Mustang side by side and ask people which they would rather have you really think the Mustang would win????

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by Blue Maro Demon

You havent seen the new CUE system? It has digital gauges and everything. I havent seen any tech like this from Ford or many others in the market for that matter. And many people dont like Fords Sync system thats a fact from the many people that complain about it not responding to commands accordingly there is supposed to be none of that with MyLink and CUE they are designed for user easability. The new MYLINK is suppossed to be showing up in many new Chevrolets soon.

Do the track apps not fit that bill?

[Stew]

Originally Posted by Blue Maro Demon

Oh really it doesnt mean 90% of the population????

So if I park a new Camaro & a new Mustang side by side and ask people which they would rather have you really think the Mustang would win????

You may be surprised...........

[Blue Maro Demon]

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

Do the track apps not fit that bill?

The track apps on the new 13' GT500 but come off a little amaturish it just looks alot like the tire preasure vehicle information that you find on every car now a days. Impressive is what Chevrolet did with the 2009 Stingray concept Corvette interior screen that gave full track layouts and all other information.

[8cd03gro]

Originally Posted by Blue Maro Demon

The new Corvette will beat a new Shelby thats a guarantee you are crazy if u think that Ford will EVER build a factory 800hp Shelby. The ONLY reason a 650hp one is being built is due to the current 5th Gen Mustang coming to an end and competition from the new ZL1. Sorry but the Mustang stock for stock wont be beating a Corvette EVER plus the new Corvette is rumored to be weighing in less than 3,000 lbs lets see a Mustang do that. Yeah the Mustang will lose weight too but the new Camaro and it will likely weigh the same meaning the Mustangs advantage will be gone where it will have to rely on its design for sales.

How can you possibly know which car will have an advantage in any respect? For all you know the 2014 mustang is going to come with a jetpack and a personal assistant.

Originally Posted by Blue Maro Demon

The track apps on the new 13' GT500 but come off a little amaturish it just looks alot like the tire preasure vehicle information that you find on every car now a days. Impressive is what Chevrolet did with the 2009 Stingray concept Corvette interior screen that gave full track layouts and all other information.

You equate AFR, boost, G, braking and acceleration performance, cyl temp and the like to tire pressure? wtf? Apparently you don't get a lot of track time because most of that info is extremely valuable. Hell, I paid hundreds of dollars for gauges to keep track of a few of those parameters. And now you're comparing a real production vehicle to a concept car?

[Blue Maro Demon]

Originally Posted by 8cd03gro

How can you possibly know which car will have an advantage in any respect? For all you know the 2014 mustang is going to come with a jetpack and a personal assistant.

Im not saying that I do BUT from what we know the next gen Mustang & Camaro will weigh very identically while the edge would go to the car company with a better designed vehicle. Since GM's interiors are being improved drastically starting with next years C7 Corvette you can expect a higher grade quality material interior as well as updated engines. It will come down to design as the deciding factor and as we all know GM design is better for the most part than Fords. Find me a Ford car that is more appealing to the public than a 1960's Corvette Stingray? Sorry there arent any.

[SIRLOIN]

I'll give Blue Maro Demon that the 5thGen looks a little better than the regular Mustang, however when discussing the Shelby, i think the looks AND technology are right on par with the ZL1. Interior looks and quality i'll give to the mustang hand down. Now lets get back on topic please.

[Stew]

Originally Posted by Blue Maro Demon

Im not saying that I do BUT from what we know the next gen Mustang & Camaro will weigh very identically while the edge would go to the car company with a better designed vehicle. Since GM's interiors are being improved drastically starting with next years C7 Corvette you can expect a higher grade quality material interior as well as updated engines. It will come down to design as the deciding factor and as we all know GM design is better for the most part than Fords. Find me a Ford car that is more appealing to the public than a 1960's Corvette Stingray? Sorry there arent any.

this isn't the 60s.......... 13 Fusion looks better than Malibu, Focus looks better than Cruze, F-150 looks better than Silverado, in MY OPINION. You cannot declare which vehicle of 2 that haven'teven had designs locked in yet is going to be better. You also seem to be assuming that Ford is going to set pat on it's engines, tech, interior, and design, you may want to REALLY rethink that........

[The IOM Ninja]

Originally Posted by Blue Maro Demon

While yeah the GT500 looks better than all other Mustangs to most people it is still just another Mustang just dressed up to look nicer. Yeah you could say something similar to the ZL1.

You for sure could say that, to me the V6 trims on both cars look emasculated compared to there V8 brothers, they look down right anemic. Which I guess for the versions of a pony car that are meant as daily drivers is perfectly fine. So it's a matter of personal opinion, looks. 90% of people are going to choose the Camaro because they saw it in transformers and they think it looks cool, hell at least 90% of the people on this site bought the Camaro because it was in transformers.