Problems after header install (SOLVED)

dragoo · 01-08-2019, 04:07 PM

What’s up guys. I’ll make this short. Installed TSP headers with off road pipes to npp. Car DOES NOT have tune yet(that might be the answer ) but I noticed it has a lot of backfiring on acceleration and some bucking going on in low Rpms. Also I noticed that at idle it’s shaking the car more than usual. I’m thinking misfire but checked all the plugs and pushed them in. Nothing is touching the headers but I’ll triple check tonight.

Thanks for any input. I think I’m probably freaking out too much about this. I know this could all be because it’s not tuned yet.

biker2k · 01-08-2019, 04:20 PM

how many miles have you put on it since headers...
car will take a little to learn what's happened

dragoo · 01-08-2019, 04:36 PM

Maybe like 30 miles. I just checked an nothing is burned from headers. Got msd wires coming in just because I do believe there is some sort of spark jumping from the plugs to headers because they are soo close to the actual header.

Agent K · 01-08-2019, 05:02 PM

Make sure your plug wires are not pulled out of the coil packs. I recently installed ARH headers and noticed that my wires were backing off when I was putting the coil pack covers on. Also, if you don't have a code reader, take it to Auto Zone for a free read out.

dragoo · 01-08-2019, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent K

Make sure your plug wires are not pulled out of the coil packs. I recently installed ARH headers and noticed that my wires were backing off when I was putting the coil pack covers on. Also, if you don't have a code reader, take it to Auto Zone for a free read out.

Lol that’s exactly what happened I forgot to add it. When I put the wires back in during install I noticed that it pushed the wire inside the boot. I got new Msd wires coming in in 2 days. Hopefully that will fix this issue. We will see.

Agent K · 01-08-2019, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dragoo

Lol that’s exactly what happened I forgot to add it. When I put the wires back in during install I noticed that it pushed the wire inside the boot. I got new Msd wires coming in in 2 days. Hopefully that will fix this issue. We will see.

Glad to be of help.

sav03cobra · 01-08-2019, 07:09 PM

Keep us posted....

JCunningham · 01-08-2019, 10:51 PM

did you remove the plugs during install? could be a cracked plug. you didnt try to gap them did you? You cant gap iridium plugs without a special gaper. check at night to see if you have a bad wire. the factory wires are actually the best as the ecu is designed to work with the resistance of the factory wires.

dragoo · 01-08-2019, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JCunningham

did you remove the plugs during install? could be a cracked plug. you didnt try to gap them did you? You cant gap iridium plugs without a special gaper. check at night to see if you have a bad wire. the factory wires are actually the best as the ecu is designed to work with the resistance of the factory wires.

I did not remove the spark plugs while installing them. They actually went in without too much trouble. I don’t think I cracked a plug. How would I check if I did would it be noticeable or something really small and chipped? Also I already ordered the msd so we will see what happens with them. And I did not check at night to see if I have spark jumping from header to plugs but will do so tomorrow.

Thanks for all the help guys I sure do appreciate it. I’ll take off the spark plugs tomorrow and see if any of them are damaged.

dragoo · 01-09-2019, 11:46 AM

Well it ended up being cracked spark plug on #2 cylinder. Thanks guys appreciate the intput !!!!!

Agent K · 01-09-2019, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dragoo

Well it ended up being cracked spark plug on #2 cylinder. Thanks guys appreciate the intput !!!!!

I'm glad you found the problem. I'll be sure to check my plugs if my car experiences the same symptoms once I've got it put back together.

dragoo · 01-09-2019, 02:14 PM

Picture of the cracked plug

JCunningham · 01-09-2019, 02:48 PM

ya they can crack even if you dont think you hit them that hard. I always go the long rout when doing stuff ill take stuff apart just to make it as easy as possible. like removing plug 8 ill remove the reservoir and to make it easy.

sav03cobra · 01-09-2019, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JCunningham

ya they can crack even if you dont think you hit them that hard. I always go the long rout when doing stuff ill take stuff apart just to make it as easy as possible. like removing plug 8 ill remove the reservoir and to make it easy.

So what if you don't have a cracked plug?

I have a M6 SS with CAI, Long Tubes, Ported IM, Ported TB and its 85* here. When I first start the car...its idle hangs around 1100, if I try to drive it before the motor warms up it bucks and surges for the first 30 seconds.

But if I let it warm up...its good to go.

Any ideas on that?

01-08-2019, 04:07 PM	#1
dragoo Drives: 2017 CAMARO 2SS Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: North Carolina Posts: 51	Problems after header install (SOLVED) What’s up guys. I’ll make this short. Installed TSP headers with off road pipes to npp. Car DOES NOT have tune yet(that might be the answer ) but I noticed it has a lot of backfiring on acceleration and some bucking going on in low Rpms. Also I noticed that at idle it’s shaking the car more than usual. I’m thinking misfire but checked all the plugs and pushed them in. Nothing is touching the headers but I’ll triple check tonight. Thanks for any input. I think I’m probably freaking out too much about this. I know this could all be because it’s not tuned yet. Last edited by dragoo; 01-09-2019 at 11:47 AM.

01-08-2019, 05:02 PM	#4
Agent K Drives: 2017 ZL1 6MT Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 191	Make sure your plug wires are not pulled out of the coil packs. I recently installed ARH headers and noticed that my wires were backing off when I was putting the coil pack covers on. Also, if you don't have a code reader, take it to Auto Zone for a free read out. __________________ 2017 ZL1 Arctic Blue Metallic / 6MT / sunroof / NAV / PDR / RotoFab CAI + dry filter / Tony Mamo TB V1 / Skip Shift Eliminator / Hurst Short Throw Shifter / ZL1 floor mats / Dead Pedal cover (to match other pedals) / ARH Catless 1-7/8" headers + ARH X-pipe + AWE Touring Axle-Back / Diode Dynamic smoked side markers / American Authority tow hook

01-08-2019, 10:51 PM	#8
JCunningham Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: WNY Posts: 7,069	did you remove the plugs during install? could be a cracked plug. you didnt try to gap them did you? You cant gap iridium plugs without a special gaper. check at night to see if you have a bad wire. the factory wires are actually the best as the ecu is designed to work with the resistance of the factory wires. __________________ real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1

01-09-2019, 02:14 PM	#12
dragoo Drives: 2017 CAMARO 2SS Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: North Carolina Posts: 51	Picture of the cracked plug Attached Images

01-09-2019, 02:48 PM	#13
JCunningham Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: WNY Posts: 7,069	ya they can crack even if you dont think you hit them that hard. I always go the long rout when doing stuff ill take stuff apart just to make it as easy as possible. like removing plug 8 ill remove the reservoir and to make it easy. __________________ real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1

01-08-2019, 04:20 PM	#2
biker2k Drives: 2018 2ss 1le Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Huntington, NY Posts: 482	how many miles have you put on it since headers... car will take a little to learn what's happened __________________ 2018 2ss 1le roto fab dry, Stainless works 1 7/8 lt to 3'" x pipe with highflow cats to stock npp, soler 95mm t/b, edelbrock 2300, LT4 fueling , jms bap and dsx flex fuel, 618/620 on e45 rwhp Jannetty Motorsports tuned

01-08-2019, 04:36 PM	#3
dragoo Drives: 2017 CAMARO 2SS Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: North Carolina Posts: 51	Maybe like 30 miles. I just checked an nothing is burned from headers. Got msd wires coming in just because I do believe there is some sort of spark jumping from the plugs to headers because they are soo close to the actual header.

01-08-2019, 07:09 PM	#7
sav03cobra SS Copbait R.I. Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Aquidneck island Posts: 217	Keep us posted....

01-09-2019, 11:46 AM	#10
dragoo Drives: 2017 CAMARO 2SS Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: North Carolina Posts: 51	Well it ended up being cracked spark plug on #2 cylinder. Thanks guys appreciate the intput !!!!!

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