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Old 06-19-2017, 02:26 PM   #839
shaffe


 
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Originally Posted by BlaqWhole View Post
Well the 500 might not even be made for this current generation. It might, but I'm leading towards the thought that we won't see one. In order for Ford to keep it within a comparable price range they would have to ditch that overpriced Voodoo engine and go with something a little more practical. How much that'll save over a supercharged engine I'm not sure. If it is not a limited production then maybe they can get away with a lower price. But the addition of options like the competition has will put that price right back up there. So they will probably strip it down. But again, this is all IF they make one.

You can say it doesn't matter all you want. But 1/4 mile performance actually does matter when it comes to a performance car that costs over $65K. The Z28 at least kept up with the ZL1 and the pre-13 GT500. And that said something. The GT350R keeps up with nothing in it's class and that says a lot. People can justify whatever they want, but I wouldn't be caught dead in a car as expensive as that and only running a low 12. You'll have bolt-on SS Camaros kicking your tail.

As far as your scenario, if Chevy released a car like the GT350R and at the same price then I would have been very disappointed in them. I would have bought a Hellcat instead. The problem is that Ford built the GT350R to keep up with the times while the Camaro was built IMO to stay ahead of the times. And as such, the Shelby is behind the times and to me is a failure while the ZL1 is ahead and a success. Ford wasted time and money building that engine. And they had to strip down the car to make it worthwhile. And the trend shifted during that time. Because now competitors are offering these cars fully loaded at this price range while the Shelby isn't. And then dealerships made it worse by overcharging for them. I feel that Shelby buyers actually thought their car was better in performance and that made them willing to pay those prices. And look at it. It beats the ZL1 at nothing, it only beats the Hellcat in cornering, it beats the ZR1 (which it gets into the price range of) at nothing. It is no match for the GTR. And I wonder how it would fare against a Z51 C7. So it is literally the bottom of the barrel in cars in it's price range. Again, despite being stripped down. It is the best Ford offering, but against others I think it is pretty much crap.
If a GT500 comes out this gen I think they can easily make it similar price to the Camaro. I don't think Ford would be dumb enough to make something costing way more than its direct competitor

Not going to beat the 1/4 dead horse anymore we will have to agree to disagree.

And I appreciate the honest response on the hypothetical question.
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Originally Posted by 72MachOne99GT View Post
Lets keep it simple. ..
it has more power...its available power is like a set kof double Ds (no matter where your face is... theyre everywhere) it has the suspension to mame it matter...(
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