[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by TPAJETSKI

I really just want a street legal 1/4 mile monster. Handling is great but power is what impresses most people, myself included. I've never had anyone ask me "how many Gs will it pull?" the question people ask is "How fast is it?"

The average person does not even understand the concept of acceleration as measured in "g's", no matter what direction it's being measured in. Never mind that few people have cars equipped with any way to measure it (yes, I know there are a few cars, devices, and apps).

Fun math . . . an 11.0 second car accelerates toward the traps at an average of 0.68g.

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

How is it more advanced? Would you say that it is more advanced than the LT1 even though it lacks direct injection and cylinder deactivation?

Generally, yes, it is. DI is certainly not an OHV-specific technology, so although the Coyote does not yet feature it does not mean that it cannot. You could say it's a current shortcoming in the Coyote's current configuration, though.

I'm not sure which approach to light load fuel economy is best - a relatively large-displacement engine with cylinder deactivation that's big enough to run on half its cylinders, or a slightly smaller displacement engine with different gearing, or an engine with small enough displacement that it needs forced induction for high-load situations. Maybe something in between. I'm not particularly on board with the complexity, weight, and drivability issues associated with hybrid solutions.

Originally Posted by Melkor

I'll be impressed if Ford can make a GT Mustang that actually sticks to the ground. That's one of the main reasons I went with the 1le, I didn't like the body movement and slip that all Mustangs seem to have. The power was there I just never felt like it was usable power (at least not for me).

Be depressed if they don't.

Those deficiencies you note can be tuned out even in the earlier S197's with little more than a better (read in part, wider) choice of wheel & tire sizes, better shock/strut damping, and a bit more roll stiffness. And brake pads with more 'bite' Nothing that Ford couldn't do (or couldn't have done), except they chose not to.

Back when I bought my 2008 (and there was no choice to make other than "V6/GT/GT500, pick one", it was with full acknowledgement that I was about to buy a blank canvas before I even went near a dealership. Same way that it was for the '79 Malibu I had before, and the '72 Pinto before that. Exactly the same kinds of mods, even. What the factory fails to do, you just do as a DIY.

But I love that Camaro and Mustang are competing with one another. That just means we, the customer, win

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