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Old 02-03-2020, 04:00 PM   #99
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Originally Posted by cellsafemode View Post
.you dont need fully autonomous cars for the end of personal ownership. The trend towards people just using them as a service is already moving in that direction with no sign of stopping. Between rental cars and ride hailing (taxi's .uber etc) ... the shift towards not needing to own a car is growing and will continue to grow so long as all of the reasons why it's growing still exist (and they likely will unless a revolution occurs against the wealthy).

The high cost of electrics now wont stop the conversion to electrics. There are factors at play in the cost that have nothing to do with the underlying technology and more to do with marketing / economic choices like entrenched franchised business models and the need to control the entire car ownership market from beginning to end as much as possible...which plays into making everything proprietary and thus more expensive. But the same thing is happening to ICE cars too.

The end user wont see the benefits of electric in terms of cost...the companies that build them will. They have no incentive to pass on savings to the buyer since they're not operating in a capitalist economy. They're a few very huge companies that squash nearly any and all attempts at capitalism trying to poke it's head in.


Yup your right, were just too stupid to see the trend. Rental cars and taxi's , mass transit who knew that would kill car sales , when is that supposed to start? Those lime colored scooters are new though, I'll give you that.


China is now the largest IC car market in the world sales growing from 2m a year in 2000 to 25m last year. People get wealthier, seems they want to own a car not catch a Uber, although after a couple of drinks it would be a wise thing to do. Nice trend, you can see where this is going as the third world grows richer. Still sell about 17m a year in the U.S. yr in and yr out. Tesla sales were flat in the U.S. last year (195k) over 2018 even with the introduction of the Model 3 (it killed Model S/X Sales) and EV sales dropped 45% in China when they removed the subsidies this past year, I see a trend there when they remove subsidies:



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