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Originally Posted by 13vertss
Didn't the Gen5 ss1le beat the Boss 302LS? and the Gen6 ss1le matches the gt350.  |
In fairytale land, sure. There's not been a single independent head-to-head of the cars. The Camaro guys
love to tell that tale. Some of them even go so far as to say the SS 1LE is as fast as the GT350R around a track.
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Originally Posted by ST1LE
Two more examples of paying for for performance than you have to with GM. It just takes more work to get the Mustang to track well, the consumer has to pay for that ultimately. Never said they aren't closing the gap, it was a comparison to how they are behind the game compared to GM. Ford closed the gap more this Gen, finishing with what will likely be the fastest all around car of the 3(GM, Ford, Dodge), but it took a LONG time, is already done with Gen 6 and has certainly fully moved on to Gen 7, more than Ford for sure as Ford isn't even done re-working the Gen 6 500 until closer to release. These aren't opinions, look at weight and performance per dollar as proof. Ford still far behind in the shaving weight category, FAR behind.
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Interesting how you seem to believe the Camaro is a featherweight. You know the SS 1LE and the GT350R
with Electronics Package are within 40 lbs of each other, right? And the GT350R isn't light by any stretch. But do go on telling us how the Camaro somehow floats across the road like a leaf.
And yeah, you did say they aren't closing the gap. These were your exact words:
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... Hopefully Ford can close the gap, lose some weight, and start bringing the Mustang from muscle car to sports car NEXT generation. ...
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Meaning you don't think they're closing the [imaginary] gap and "maybe" they can with the next Mustang. Truth be told there are no shortages of YouTube videos showing it's a driver's race between the GT and the SS. I believe the Ecoboost stomps the lower Camaros. And the new GT500 is going to stomp the ZL1s. Your perception that the Camaro is the performance king is a fallacy. It's the same fight it's always been. Some days the Camaro will come out on top, other days the Mustang will come out on top.
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Originally Posted by BlaqWhole
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He doesn't have one for starters...
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Apparently you wish I didn't. I hate to burst your bubble, but yes, I DO own one. 2017 Lightning Blue, chassis HR270.
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Originally Posted by ST1LE
If he is who I think he is from the M6G site, then I believe he does. Just curious why he doesn't have better things to do than come over here and troll. LOL, so lame.
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I don't know who you think I am, but I'm not on Mustang 6G. And I'm not here trolling. Just trying to keep you guys in perspective. Some of you are EXACTLY like the Mustang fanboys. Your blinders are on so tight that you can't, and refuse to, see reality. BlaqWhole is so bad that every one of his posts is doublespeak: "The new GT500 is a joke and won't hang with the ZL1. But if it does, it took them 6 years to do it. blah blah blah" Who cares how long it took them to do it as long as they did it? Don't be trying to write in a backdoor for yourself. Speak your words and stand behind them. We won't make you eat the whole crow, just a few bites.
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Originally Posted by kttxz06
Um, wrong. A pulley swap and tune time on the dyno will easily run $1000. Labor included. Add whatever E85 fueling system you'll need and you'll be into for a few grand. A "few". Meaning, $2500-$3k. You'll spend $500 just for Lund Gauge.
You don't just spend a few hundred bux and pop out 100 hp on tuning. smh. This ain't Fast N Furious movies. This is a $80k car and if you plan on spending a few hundred dollars tuning, then have at it.
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Wrong. I guess the Camaro guys are getting ripped off big time for mods. It's only a few hundred bucks for a pulley and tune for a GT500. Maybe the Camaro does, but Mustangs don't
have to have a new fuel system to run E85. Very few GT500 owners change their fuel system just to run E85. And what labor cost could there possibly be with changing a pulley?? It's a 5 minute job whether you do it yourself or a shop does it. Have you ever worked on your own car??
A handheld tuner, canned tune and a pulley is under $1000 dollars (for a GT500), AKA a few hundred bucks. You guys may want to switch over to Mustangs so you can save money on mods. LOL