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Originally Posted by Poppacapp
And... did you just compare a ZL1 to a NA GT350? GT500 coming may have something to say about that... like it did in 2013....
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1 - That depends on a lot of factors. Even with extreme HP the GT500 with an M6 trans is only going to go soo fast. Look at the HC. 707 hp yet can must only a high 11 in M6 form with the stock tires. Look at the 13 GT500. 663 hp yet could only do an 11.7 with the M6 trans. Ford has never put an auto trans in the GT500. So if they expect it to outrun the 11.4 of the ZL1 with the A10 trans, then it will need a hell of a good tire and a hell of a good auto trans. Is Ford going to break tradition and actually offer it with an auto? We'll see. Otherwise it'll need 750 hp, an awesome tire, and come in at like 3800 pounds just to match the A10 ZL1. And even then it won't be a massacre. It'll be well within a driver's race IF it does beat the ZL1. Around a track, well I doubt it'll beat the ZL1 1LE.
2 - I fall back on my earlier argument. It is nothing new and Ford is again late to the party. Dodge has the HC since 2015 and the Demon for 2018. Both mega hp cars. GM has the CTS-V, Z06, ZL1 (1LE), and the ZR1 is coming (for MY 2019). So now finally Ford shows up with something pushing the numbers that GM and Dodge have both been pushing since 2015? And that is if it is even available for MY 2019. They're late to the party by 4 years at that point. So even if they do beat out the ZL1, by that time the ZL1 will have been on the streets for 3 full MYs, lol!! They had better be able to beat a car that has been out that long since they sure as hell had enough time to develop it. So whats it gonna do? Show up 4 years late for 2 MYs and then disappear again for another 5 years? What kind of shit is that? It won't even matter if they do beat it. And we all see how GM is taking down cars with more HP. If anything the GT500 will have to be very exceptional to beat the ZL1.
3 - This ain't 2013 anymore. Back then the autos were losing to the manuals, Mustangs had solid axles and less weight, cars had nowhere near the extra options they have now...let's just say that the game has changed quite a bit since the last GT500. GM built a platform with the 6th Gen that would allow it to beat cars on higher trim levels and with more power. I think they were pretty confident that Ford would not be able to touch the ZL1 unless they built a similar car with an auto trans, excellent suspension, and awesome tires. We'll see what happens. But I don't think Ford can pull out a win with the S550 chassis. They might have to just do what they can and build the 7th Gen better than they did the S550.