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Joshinator99 02-26-2024 06:25 PM

Sub 9.0 second roll cage discussion
 
So let’s talk roll cages. There’s a few of us living in the low 9 second range so this discussion needs to be had. And fortunately one of us (ahem, Jason lol) is already knocking on the 7 second door! Maybe I should have just sent him a PM. :smiling1:

I see RPM makes a weld in cage that is supposedly good to 8.50 but the NHRA spec looks to be really crazy to run below 8.50…more braces than the Golden Gate Bridge! What are you guys running? RPM, another brand, or custom? Or just frequent a really friendly track that doesn’t enforce the cage requirement?

I hardly drive my car on the street anymore and I’d hate to ruin that even farther with a crazy cage setup but not sure what else I can do if I want to race at my local track. I’m assuming you need a chute too…easy to remove if you want to drive on the street? What about the window netting? Or is all this stuff just a necessity and my street days are numbered?

Thanks for any and all feedback. :happy0180:

Dirtbike 02-26-2024 10:15 PM

Custom is the only way to go IMO. I had a couple variations of "bolt in' roll bars/4pt etc in other platforms, but it's never really ideal. Most are going to be mild steel, and chromoly is what you want.

jlaudio11 02-27-2024 08:57 AM

I've been wondering about this myself. If the car itself is good to 9.0, all of a sudden it needs a lot more to go 8.50? Can anyone educate me on the break points? I took my Camaro to dinner last night and work today. Yes I want to go faster but I also don't want a jungle gym to bash my head off of while driving on the street.

Joshinator99 02-27-2024 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jlaudio11 (Post 11407201)
I've been wondering about this myself. If the car itself is good to 9.0, all of a sudden it needs a lot more to go 8.50? Can anyone educate me on the break points? I took my Camaro to dinner last night and work today. Yes I want to go faster but I also don't want a jungle gym to bash my head off of while driving on the street.

Yeah we can go as fast as 9.0 or 150 MPH without a cage. Breaking either of those barriers necessitates the cage which I’m really not looking forward to. And even then, that cage only gets you to 8.50! The next step to go faster than 8.50 is really crazy… jungle gym lol…

jlaudio11 02-27-2024 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshinator99 (Post 11407245)
Yeah we can go as fast as 9.0 or 150 MPH without a cage. Breaking either of those barriers necessitates the cage which I’m really not looking forward to. And even then, that cage only gets you to 8.50! The next step to go faster than 8.50 is really crazy… jungle gym lol…

No kidding! I run mostly 1/8 no prep locally but running it through the 1/4 I can feel how a chute would be helpful (over 150mph). I think I'll do it first but it's also an instant indicator on how fast the car is to competitors and tech officials lol.

Joshinator99 02-27-2024 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jlaudio11 (Post 11407248)
No kidding! I run mostly 1/8 no prep locally but running it through the 1/4 I can feel how a chute would be helpful (over 150mph). I think I'll do it first but it's also an instant indicator on how fast the car is to competitors and tech officials lol.

Yep, exactly! I already broke 150 MPH so the guy in the ticket booth looked at my ticket, looked at my car, looked at the ticket and the finally just handed me the ticket. So I could see he was thinking of busting my butt already lol…

2018ZL1 02-27-2024 07:14 PM

I have the RPM bar in mine... more for piece of mind for me! I normally only do track rentals and they could give a rats ass if you run in the 8's without one! Put a Kirkey seat and a 5 point harness in as well! I ended up going off the deep end here with another Camaro! LOL! 2019 COPO that is certified to 8.50. NHRA also wants anyone under 10.0 to have a license! I need to get on that one...

Joshinator99 02-27-2024 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 2018ZL1 (Post 11407366)
I have the RPM bar in mine... more for piece of mind for me! I normally only do track rentals and they could give a rats ass if you run in the 8's without one! Put a Kirkey seat and a 5 point harness in as well! I ended up going off the deep end here with another Camaro! LOL! 2019 COPO that is certified to 8.50. NHRA also wants anyone under 10.0 to have a license! I need to get on that one...

Yeah the bar doesn’t help at the track at all since you can run 9.0 without it (as you know). The 9 second license was easy to get. This is the form I did: https://www.nhraracer.com/Files/StreetLegal.pdf

Friendly track rentals can’t be beat. Wish I didn’t live so far from Cecil County Dragway lol…those guys were great and that track is fast AF. Solid 3 tenths faster than my local track and less drama. :bonk:

2018ZL1 02-27-2024 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshinator99 (Post 11407373)
Yeah the bar doesn’t help at the track at all since you can run 9.0 without it (as you know). The 9 second license was easy to get. This is the form I did: https://www.nhraracer.com/Files/StreetLegal.pdf

Friendly track rentals can’t be beat. Wish I didn’t live so far from Cecil County Dragway lol…those guys were great and that track is fast AF. Solid 3 tenths faster than my local track and less drama. :bonk:

I havent seen this! The one I was looking at is somewhat of a PITA to get, this not so much! Thanks!

Yea... Cecil is fast! Not sure if you had ever been to Capitol raceway? It is even faster than Cecil! Now its a no prep deal! I am not interested in putting my ride in the wall because of lack of prep! :/ April 14th Brandon is doing a spring brawl... I will be here to see what the 15 inch conversion and 100lb weight loss will do! Cant get here fast enough!

Joshinator99 02-28-2024 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 2018ZL1 (Post 11407376)
I havent seen this! The one I was looking at is somewhat of a PITA to get, this not so much! Thanks!

You’re welcome! :happy0180:

JSH 02-28-2024 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshinator99 (Post 11407245)
Yeah we can go as fast as 9.0 or 150 MPH without a cage. Breaking either of those barriers necessitates the cage which I’m really not looking forward to. And even then, that cage only gets you to 8.50! The next step to go faster than 8.50 is really crazy… jungle gym lol…

I knew about the 150 limit but not the 9.0, which is good news. I will not put another cage in a car, so I'll have to deal with these two limits.

Hammer-joe 02-29-2024 12:37 PM

Roll Cage
 
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Here's a few pics of my 8.50 cage on my 16 Camaro. Few other things to keep in mind. You will also need a window net and a parachute after 150mph. My cage is a 8.50 cert RPM and is fully welded in. It's not that bad getting in and out once you get use to it. The 16 Camaro has alot less chassis flex then my 18 Camaro with no cage. The rear view mirror and sun visors are useless.

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2018ZL1 03-01-2024 04:12 PM

That looks good! I bet that bar that goes thru the dash up front is a major PITA to install! I would think the dash would have to be removed?

Joshinator99 03-01-2024 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 2018ZL1 (Post 11408067)
That looks good! I bet that bar that goes thru the dash up front is a major PITA to install! I would think the dash would have to be removed?

Agreed, probably pull the windshield to do that.


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