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cdb95z28 01-16-2020 02:02 PM

Dissected: Updated AC Delco PF64 Oil Filter
 
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For the Gen6 Camaros with the LT1/LT4. Some of this has been previously covered:

I cut apart the newer version of the AC Delco PF64 Oil Filter, GM part # 12696048. There is an older version of the PF64, part # 12640445, but it is going to be harder to find. Some people thought the older version was a better filter.


Overall the newer PF64 looks OK, it does not have the paper/fiber end caps of some of the GM/AC Delco "E" core filters. It also has a bypass valve with a coil spring. The bypass valve set point is 22psi. GM states the proper filter with the correct bypass is critical for the Gen 6 Camaro V8s.

But....
It is a touch shorter.
It has a plastic inner retainer.

Realistically, I see no problem running this filter. Some may want to run this to satisfy the warranty. Are there better filters? Certainly.

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Here's a couple pics I found online:
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GM TSB:

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Elite Engineering 01-16-2020 04:10 PM

Good info, Thanks for sharing!


What GM won't tell you is the reason for the bypass valve. ALL GDI engines experience many times the abrasive particulate matter shed from intake valves and contaminating the engine oil. The filters may clog to the point of restricting oil flow and turned bearings are the result. And this is not just the GM GDI engines, it is ALL GDI engines as this is an inherent problem along with the fuel dilution issues.


Cheers!

travislambert 01-16-2020 04:57 PM

Thanks for posting this!

I didn't notice the part # change and I thought my new PF64 filters might be counterfeit due to the cheaper look and feel.

Eldi Z 01-16-2020 08:12 PM

Good information here and as I suspected when looking at the newer "048" part.

This is why I quickly stocked up on the good old "445" - Seems to be built a lot sturdier overall.

BlueinTN 01-20-2020 09:26 AM

No direct data on this but good friend had a pin hole in the metal on one.


He has been chasing an oil leak for weeks on his truck.



Problem is it was tightened serveral times so when he went to take it off it crush down so I doubt there is any way to diagnose it and I dont have the build date of the filter but by the paint it looks brand new.


As far as the "bypass valve" in the oil filter...what automotive oil filter doesnt have this?

enzia35 01-22-2020 03:01 PM

I went to the WIX filter. WL10290

olblue75 01-23-2020 05:42 AM

I’m using the K&N filter in my Vette LT1. Do I need to be scared?

ssmofo 01-23-2020 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enzia35 (Post 10706281)
I went to the WIX filter. WL10290

That's what I'm using, I use wix in all my cars.

cdb95z28 01-23-2020 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by olblue75 (Post 10706680)
I’m using the K&N filter in my Vette LT1. Do I need to be scared?

It depends on which K&N it is. Is it a direct replacement for the PF64 with the 22psi bypass?
K&N filters are very good.

OzzieSS 01-28-2020 07:37 PM

I did my first oil change on my recently purchased '16 1SS. I used a Wix 57060XP filter that has a bypass PSI of 12. Should I be concerned with this???

cdb95z28 01-29-2020 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by OzzieSS (Post 10711061)
I did my first oil change on my recently purchased '16 1SS. I used a Wix 57060XP filter that has a bypass PSI of 12. Should I be concerned with this???

That does not meet the specs GM has set for an oil filter on a Gen 6. The TSB describes why the proper filter is needed.
If you want to use a Wix, get the WL10290XP.

JCunningham 01-30-2020 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OzzieSS (Post 10711061)
I did my first oil change on my recently purchased '16 1SS. I used a Wix 57060XP filter that has a bypass PSI of 12. Should I be concerned with this???

ya change it to the proper filter.

OzzieSS 01-30-2020 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by cdb95z28 (Post 10712055)
That does not meet the specs GM has set for an oil filter on a Gen 6. The TSB describes why the proper filter is needed.
If you want to use a Wix, get the WL10290XP.

Yeah, that's what I did yesterday. I'm not screwing around with something as important as this. Thanks.....

Tyestick 01-31-2020 03:53 AM

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I’m glad I came upon this topic.

I bought a K&N oil filter just to have an extra one on hand, and now that I’m looking at the K&N PSI relief valve rating, it’s rated between 11-17psi.

... I guess I’ll be returning it?


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