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This feels like we’re back to the old days, where all you needed to steal any car was a shim or long pick, a flat head screwdriver, and a hammer.
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Prediction: It's going to be the GM full-size trucks that cause any kind of retro-fix from GM. Way, WAY more of those get stolen and if I recall they basically have similar security architecture as the Camaro.
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Anyone remember the Mazda 3 generation where if you kicked the door in the right spot it would unlock? Many of the parked Mazda 3s I crossed in that time had big dents in the doors, and this persisted for a long time even after Mazda did their recall to install reinforcement plates as a remedy. |
This is a big worry for me, too. Had Big plans to see and ride thru America with my VOM 2SS. Now with this New crap (Camaro stealing on the rise), even with IGLA, Compustar T13, OBD Lock, etc. I would never forgive myself, if I left it unattended in some hotel lot and it got broken into with glass., I would be removing for the life of the vehicle.
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...And just think, all these ongoing software issues that go unresolved and never ending are brought to you buy the same folks who are pushing the ability to "drive" with no-hands on the wheel!
With your family inside and other innocent travelers on the road, it's something to consider with the track record of software in cars before this software dependent "hands-free" bs gets out of control...(pun intended). |
Made the call. Took about 10 minutes. I figured 10-20 minutes talking to GM would be quicker than waiting for police, filing reports, and dealing with the insurance.
IMO, cars will always be stolen. They could get a flatbed or a helicopter to steal it. That being said, GM has a duty to make my vehicle secure. Why not just forget door locks and put a toggle switch on the dash? This cloning business is just about as easy. Not only that, as some have mentioned, my insurance rates will go up to cover these losses. I'm sure we will have to pay more period because the odds of a damage claim occurring w/o an actual theft will go up too. Also, saying it's only a "LA thing", or "California thing" is pretty ignorant. Everyone knows that once a trend starts (good or bad), it will travel across the country. It's only a matter of time. FWIW, you can also add Dodge to the list of companies that recognized the problem and is/has attempted to fix it. https://www.dodgegarage.com/news/art...-measures.html |
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Obviously that Dodge thing from 2021 didn't work or has already been bypassed. Lots of Hellcats and other Stelantis vehicles being stolen now.
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Spoke with my Agent today (Allstate) about discounts for theft deterrents.
It varies from state to state (AZ is a no). I also asked if, as an individual company, or as a group (insurance association), do they lobby car manufacturers to fix these sorts of issues. The reply was no. Specifically, she stated that in the case of KIA, insurance companies either refused to insure any vehicles, or they offered liability only. Allstate's stand was that if the car owners got mad enough, they'd contact the manufacturers to demand a software patch to solve the problem. |
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Thanks, wish every 6th Gen. Camaro owner would do the same. As said by :"Allstate's stand was that if the car owners got mad enough, they'd contact the manufacturers to demand a software patch to solve the problem." |
Too much hand wringing over the "why even try?" arguments to contend with the flatbeds/helicopters (less than 1%) when a simple relay swap (regardless of appearance of the actual relay) or kill switch will stop the 16 year old with cloning tool from Amazon (99%) in his tracks.
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