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awdmofo · 08-16-2017, 12:25 PM

Wondering if Jacfab is the only one making mani spacers for the LFX engine?

Jason@JacFab · 08-16-2017, 06:54 PM

JacFab, BCS, and MACE (but you have to ship from Australia w/ MACE)

Only JacFab and BCS are machined for oring gaskets, MACE you have to use RTV to seal.

Pete M · 08-16-2017, 07:28 PM

I love my JacFab......

Kenny Camaro · 08-16-2017, 08:07 PM

Jacfab rules! I always recommend Jacfab intake spacers.

Silent... · 08-16-2017, 08:20 PM

From BCS's website: "Designed and produced by JacFab LLC to BCS specs and material requirements, these Intake Manifold Spacers are the perfect addition to your LFX Camaro. You can expect a 7-10% increase in low-end torque, and a 4-6% gain in low-to-mid range HP."

So, you basically have MACE or Jacfab. I'm thinking about one and it would be JacFab whether you buy it from JacFab or BCS.

Kenny Camaro · 08-16-2017, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Silent...

From BCS's website: "Designed and produced by JacFab LLC to BCS specs and material requirements, these Intake Manifold Spacers are the perfect addition to your LFX Camaro. You can expect a 7-10% increase in low-end torque, and a 4-6% gain in low-to-mid range HP."

So, you basically have MACE or Jacfab. I'm thinking about one and it would be JacFab whether you buy it from JacFab or BCS.

I wonder what the spec difference is?

I don't think Jason's claims a hp gain, does it?

Silent... · 08-16-2017, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenny Camaro

I wonder what the spec difference is?

I don't think Jason's claims a hp gain, does it?

Not sure. JacFab states: "•Up to a 7-10% increase in low-mid range torque, and a 4-6% gain in low-mid range HP."

Kenny Camaro · 08-16-2017, 08:37 PM

Ahhh, cool. I did a port job on my 80TB and my intake manifold and installed the spacers all at the same time and the difference is substantial. It's like a different car.

ghosted · 08-17-2017, 02:54 AM

Hey guys, Justin Hilliard of BCS Auto here. Our spacer design is almost identical to JacFab, aside from the material used. We decided to go with a G10/FR4 composite material instead of JF's material for a few reasons.

One of the reasons is that I feel that G10/FR4 is more friendly when it comes to installing nitrous/fuel nozzles for direct-port injection, as well as methanol or supplemental fuel injectors...though Nitrous Outlet's machinist completely failed with our last test spacer. I'm of the opinion that G10/FR4 will hold threaded components much better in the long run. Another reason we chose G10/FR4 I was concerned with nitrous/fuel/methanol collecting in the semi-porous material that JacFab uses. With our composite intake manifolds, I'd hate to have pre-detonation ignite fuel/nitrous mix in the intake manifold and cause you to lose your intake manifold, so it was a precaution I wanted to take.

With all of that being said, I'm not suggesting that JacFab's material is inferior in any way, (I am still running my JF Spacer until I start spraying next week) I just wanted to cover all bases with ours. We're even currently holding the same price as the JacFab spacer, at least until material costs eat up our budget. (See attached image for Jason@'s sexy mill work)

On another note, the Mace Engineering Spacer is only 6.35mm (0.25") thick while the JacFab and BCS Auto Spacers are 19mm (0.75") thick, big difference.

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Originally Posted by Silent...

So, you basically have MACE or Jacfab. I'm thinking about one and it would be JacFab whether you buy it from JacFab or BCS.

JacFab, BCS, and Mace are available options....not just JacFab and Mace. Just because I'm rarely on the forums doesn't mean you've gotta exclude us!

awdmofo · 08-17-2017, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason@

JacFab, BCS, and MACE (but you have to ship from Australia w/ MACE)

Only JacFab and BCS are machined for oring gaskets, MACE you have to use RTV to seal.

Ahh thanks for the background!

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Originally Posted by Kenny Camaro

Ahhh, cool. I did a port job on my 80TB and my intake manifold and installed the spacers all at the same time and the difference is substantial. It's like a different car.

hence why I went with your ported TB and mani (soon). I figure I'd see if anyone else makes one of the same size that does the same thing for less. But I guess its a standard cost for all the spacers out there.

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Originally Posted by ghosted

Hey guys, Justin Hilliard of BCS Auto here. Our spacer design is almost identical to JacFab, aside from the material used. We decided to go with a G10/FR4 composite material instead of JF's material for a few reasons.

One of the reasons is that I feel that G10/FR4 is more friendly when it comes to installing nitrous/fuel nozzles for direct-port injection, as well as methanol or supplemental fuel injectors...though Nitrous Outlet's machinist completely failed with our last test spacer. I'm of the opinion that G10/FR4 will hold threaded components much better in the long run. Another reason we chose G10/FR4 I was concerned with nitrous/fuel/methanol collecting in the semi-porous material that JacFab uses. With our composite intake manifolds, I'd hate to have pre-detonation ignite fuel/nitrous mix in the intake manifold and cause you to lose your intake manifold, so it was a precaution I wanted to take.

With all of that being said, I'm not suggesting that JacFab's material is inferior in any way, (I am still running my JF Spacer until I start spraying next week) I just wanted to cover all bases with ours. We're even currently holding the same price as the JacFab spacer, at least until material costs eat up our budget. (See attached image for Jason@'s sexy mill work)

On another note, the Mace Engineering Spacer is only 6.35mm (0.25") thick while the JacFab and BCS Auto Spacers are 19mm (0.75") thick, big difference.

JacFab, BCS, and Mace are available options....not just JacFab and Mace. Just because I'm rarely on the forums doesn't mean you've gotta exclude us!

ghosted thank you for chiming in

, I feel a lot of people might benefits from knowing this and if you want to make more of a presence on the forum it wouldn't hurt as I've never heard of BCS. However I'm a noob to the 5th gen and been on the forum for 4 months so take that into account. Do you have a website link for your products?

Jason@JacFab · 08-17-2017, 02:02 PM

It should also be noted that MACE have different thickness options, basically 1/4", 1/2" and 1", and the prices all vary (thinner = cheaper price)...

However, when I was designing and prototyping the JacFab spacer, I tried and dynoed 1/2, 3/4, and 1"... The 1" had the greatest gains in the low to mid range power, but sacrificed too much power on the top end. The 1/2" had little gains on the low to mid range, with no loss on the top end, but also had no gains... Hence why I only offer one thickness, 3/4", as it should nice noticable gains in the bottom end to mid range, with little to no loss on the top end.

BTW, I am Jason @ Jacfab, but my user name has been changed by the forum admins as I stopped paying the site sponsor fee due to cost, and some other vendors complained. So now I'm just Jason@.

I know BCS may have some spacers in stock if they haven't all sold out yet, and I am about halfway done with a batch of JacFab spacers which will be ready to start shipping early next week.

ghosted · 08-17-2017, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by awdmofo

ghosted thank you for chiming in

, I feel a lot of people might benefits from knowing this and if you want to make more of a presence on the forum it wouldn't hurt as I've never heard of BCS. However I'm a noob to the 5th gen and been on the forum for 4 months so take that into account. Do you have a website link for your products?

No problem! I'm not sure if I can share the link on here without getting shut down, as I'm not a paying forum sponsor. One day, I hope that bcsauto.com can be a paying sponsor of camaro5.

I'm not surprised that you haven't heard of us. We've been in business for a little over a year, but our primary audience is our Facebook group (linked in my signature). As we grow and things slow down, I'll be able to focus on the c5 forums a bit more. Jason and I have a number of new projects in the works as well, so things should get even more exciting as time goes on.

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Originally Posted by Jason@

It should also be noted that MACE have different thickness options, basically 1/4", 1/2" and 1", and the prices all vary (thinner = cheaper price)...

I totally forgot that they were offering different thicknesses on theirs, thanks Jason!

Silent... · 08-17-2017, 06:58 PM

Thanks for the clarification on materials. I'll hit one of you up when I get ready. I love showing off this v6 on the track.

awdmofo · 08-21-2017, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason@

It should also be noted that MACE have different thickness options, basically 1/4", 1/2" and 1", and the prices all vary (thinner = cheaper price)...

However, when I was designing and prototyping the JacFab spacer, I tried and dynoed 1/2, 3/4, and 1"... The 1" had the greatest gains in the low to mid range power, but sacrificed too much power on the top end. The 1/2" had little gains on the low to mid range, with no loss on the top end, but also had no gains... Hence why I only offer one thickness, 3/4", as it should nice noticable gains in the bottom end to mid range, with little to no loss on the top end.

BTW, I am Jason @ Jacfab, but my user name has been changed by the forum admins as I stopped paying the site sponsor fee due to cost, and some other vendors complained. So now I'm just Jason@.

I know BCS may have some spacers in stock if they haven't all sold out yet, and I am about halfway done with a batch of JacFab spacers which will be ready to start shipping early next week.

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08-16-2017, 12:25 PM	#1
awdmofo V6 banger Drives: 2016 Lexus CT200H Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Anaheim CA Posts: 158	Intake manifold spacer companies Wondering if Jacfab is the only one making mani spacers for the LFX engine? __________________ 2016 CT200h (daily) 2017-2020 V6 (currently looking to buy) 2013 LS 6-speed (SOLD) Elite E2 catch can, CAI intake, 2.5" SLP Loudmouth II mufflers with no resonators with an X pipe, Kenny Racing ported TB, Jacfab spacer and ported manifold and Accelerated Racing E85 octane dyno tune = 300WHP Special Thanks to... Jason@JacFab, ChibBlackSheep, Kenny Racing & Accelerated Racing (use to be in) Rancho Cucamonga CA.

08-16-2017, 07:28 PM	#3
Pete M 9 Year USMC Vet Drives: 2014 1LT black on black Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Farmington, NC Posts: 730 View My Garage	I love my JacFab...... __________________ A lot of stuff done so far to make it look better and be more fun to drive.....

08-16-2017, 08:20 PM	#5
Silent... Drives: 2012 2LT RS White Born: 11/10/11 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 313	From BCS's website: "Designed and produced by JacFab LLC to BCS specs and material requirements, these Intake Manifold Spacers are the perfect addition to your LFX Camaro. You can expect a 7-10% increase in low-end torque, and a 4-6% gain in low-to-mid range HP." So, you basically have MACE or Jacfab. I'm thinking about one and it would be JacFab whether you buy it from JacFab or BCS. __________________ Grey Hockey Stripes; Heritage Grill; GM GFX - Unpainted Argent Gray; GM Dovetail Spoiler; Rivercity Creations custom painted rear bowtie, RS & Taillight Bezels; MRR M017 Graphite Wheels; Nitto NT555 G2; ACS 4Teen Heat Extractor RX Catch Can;CAI; MF Exhaust; VMAX CNC Spiral Ported TB; Overkill Stage 1 Supercharger System; Hotchkis Comp Sway Bar Set w/ End Links, Cadillac CTSV 4 Piston Brembos on all corners with SS Black Hat Rotors Youtube Channel - HPDE Driving Videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpO...8aw6hgX3O1Uh7A

08-17-2017, 06:58 PM	#13
Silent... Drives: 2012 2LT RS White Born: 11/10/11 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 313	Thanks for the clarification on materials. I'll hit one of you up when I get ready. I love showing off this v6 on the track. __________________ Grey Hockey Stripes; Heritage Grill; GM GFX - Unpainted Argent Gray; GM Dovetail Spoiler; Rivercity Creations custom painted rear bowtie, RS & Taillight Bezels; MRR M017 Graphite Wheels; Nitto NT555 G2; ACS 4Teen Heat Extractor RX Catch Can;CAI; MF Exhaust; VMAX CNC Spiral Ported TB; Overkill Stage 1 Supercharger System; Hotchkis Comp Sway Bar Set w/ End Links, Cadillac CTSV 4 Piston Brembos on all corners with SS Black Hat Rotors Youtube Channel - HPDE Driving Videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpO...8aw6hgX3O1Uh7A

08-16-2017, 06:54 PM	#2
Jason@JacFab Drives: 2016 1LT RS Camaro; 72 Chevelle Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Point, OR Posts: 5,688 View My Garage	JacFab, BCS, and MACE (but you have to ship from Australia w/ MACE) Only JacFab and BCS are machined for oring gaskets, MACE you have to use RTV to seal.

08-16-2017, 08:07 PM	#4
Kenny Camaro Account Suspended Drives: 2013 1LT RS Camaro Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Southeast Michigan Posts: 3,494	Jacfab rules! I always recommend Jacfab intake spacers.

08-16-2017, 08:37 PM	#8
Kenny Camaro Account Suspended Drives: 2013 1LT RS Camaro Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Southeast Michigan Posts: 3,494	Ahhh, cool. I did a port job on my 80TB and my intake manifold and installed the spacers all at the same time and the difference is substantial. It's like a different car.

08-17-2017, 02:02 PM	#11
Jason@JacFab Drives: 2016 1LT RS Camaro; 72 Chevelle Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Point, OR Posts: 5,688 View My Garage	It should also be noted that MACE have different thickness options, basically 1/4", 1/2" and 1", and the prices all vary (thinner = cheaper price)... However, when I was designing and prototyping the JacFab spacer, I tried and dynoed 1/2, 3/4, and 1"... The 1" had the greatest gains in the low to mid range power, but sacrificed too much power on the top end. The 1/2" had little gains on the low to mid range, with no loss on the top end, but also had no gains... Hence why I only offer one thickness, 3/4", as it should nice noticable gains in the bottom end to mid range, with little to no loss on the top end. BTW, I am Jason @ Jacfab, but my user name has been changed by the forum admins as I stopped paying the site sponsor fee due to cost, and some other vendors complained. So now I'm just Jason@. I know BCS may have some spacers in stock if they haven't all sold out yet, and I am about halfway done with a batch of JacFab spacers which will be ready to start shipping early next week.