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attymf · 07-07-2012, 01:57 PM

I am debating an HP Tune cause I can get a deal on it but still I am wondering if it is even worth it.

What will the HP tune do as far as HP/TQ, gas mileage, rev limiter, top end limiter etc.

I have the LS3 (manual for those who are not smart) a CAI intake and Corsa Catback.

MA2010SS · 07-07-2012, 03:10 PM

HP Tuners is a powerful program, if you do not have experience with tuning you could wind up getting frustrated very quickly, do alot of reading and visit the HPTuners website for info. HPT will do what ever you need it to do, there are tons of parameters you can change unlike some hand held units, just mu .02 cents

hapisok · 07-07-2012, 03:12 PM

i gained around 10HP & 10TQ (peak) 15HP & 25TQ (across the RPM range) with just the tune. removed the speed limiter. eliminated skip shift. removed TQ management (not to include stabili-track/traction control). got my CAI (roto-fab) and still need to retune and plan to be sitting just over 400 by then. its a better option than the canned tunes. mail order tunes are good too but you've got to be careful who your going through. but there are some very reputable tuners/vendors on here that will hook you up with a sweet ass tune via email. if you plan on future mod's, then the tuning and tweaking can be done by you if your willing to venture down that road with HP tuners. plus lots of help on the HP tuners site. you have lots of options available, it really comes down to what you have available. in my opinion...YES, its worth it.

attymf · 07-07-2012, 03:27 PM

dealership is gonna tune my car and not void warranty and do it at low cost

MA2010SS · 07-07-2012, 05:25 PM

Great dealer, not many like them around!

Higgs Boson · 07-07-2012, 06:04 PM

as long as they know what they are doing. make sure you get the .hpt file emailed to you, then you can post it on HPT forums and see what they changed (to verify things were done as promised). If they can't provide you with the file then........

Tampa Tuning · 07-08-2012, 08:34 AM

I only use the HP Tuner program. It does everything that's needed. I can even have HP Tuners to write a custom operating system for your vehicle. Then apply a custom tune to your custom operating system. They are the only company that will write an operating system for your car.

Unless your dealership designs alot of tunes, Id be concerned. Just because they may have a good tech, does not mean they are specialized in the tuning platform. They are two very differant worlds.

For those that have HP Tuners, I charge $150.00 for mail order tunes.
www.TampaTuning.com
Phil

Higgs Boson · 07-08-2012, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tampa Tuning

Unless your dealership designs alot of tunes, Id be concerned. Just because they may have a good tech, does not mean they are specialized in the tuning platform. They are two very differant worlds.

Phil

exactly

hapisok · 07-08-2012, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tampa Tuning

I only use the HP Tuner program. It does everything that's needed. I can even have HP Tuners to write a custom operating system for your vehicle. Then apply a custom tune to your custom operating system. They are the only company that will write an operating system for your car.

Unless your dealership designs alot of tunes, Id be concerned. Just because they may have a good tech, does not mean they are specialized in the tuning platform. They are two very differant worlds.

For those that have HP Tuners, I charge $150.00 for mail order tunes.
www.TampaTuning.com
Phil

is that a one time fee or does it also include tweaks/updates?

thanks

Tampa Tuning · 07-11-2012, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hapisok

is that a one time fee or does it also include tweaks/updates?

thanks

It includes tweaks to make the mail order tune better. Updates down the road to your vehicle are not included in the orginal price. you'd have to paid an amount if you like added additional parts. Sometime it takes one review and sometimes it takes a couple. Last week I was designing a tune for a 2012 Z06 Corvette for a shop in the philippines, and it took 4 scans till I liked what I was seeing.

I send you your Tampa Tuning named work tune1 and a HP Tuner scanner Configuration i use on all my cars. You save the configuration to your HP Tuner scanner config folder and pull it up when you plug in and scan.

After you upload the work tune1 to the vehicle, save a 15 minute scan with the powerful scanner I sent to you which includes all the PID I use for dyno and street tuning.

Take the car for a drive with some part throttle, safe WOT, then two minutes of idle time and send the scan back to me for review. Ill make corrections and send it back to you as work tune 2.

Some people call this custom tuning, but I call it having a very good mail order tune work for your car.

If it was a custom tune, Id be plugged into your ECM and have my wideband attached and optimizing the car in front of me starting from scratch and switching the operating system from open loop and closed loop so fueling trims dont interfer with the tuning process. Thats the right way to a true custom tune made for your vehicle.
www.TampaTuning.com
Phil

hapisok · 07-12-2012, 03:57 AM

sweet...thanks for the info. got the pro tuning suit myself and am trying to learn it...where to start and what to tweak (seems the MAF is where it all begins which makes sense). i've got a baseline tune and 2 additional tunes that got me where i am now by brent at DTP and its good stuff. but i'd like to make the changes as i add to my build. i've found one decent write up so far but a little out dated. HPT forum seems to be lacking as everything is really vague unless you buy the DVD's. at the same time though it seems that a lot of guys are willing to look at logs and help out there. not to take away from your services, but do you have a guide that you go by or a recommendation of where to start (tuning 101 for noobs)? the tune repository is mostly stock tunes so its pointless to compare anything on there.

thanks

Higgs Boson · 07-12-2012, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hapisok

sweet...thanks for the info. got the pro tuning suit myself and am trying to learn it...where to start and what to tweak (seems the MAF is where it all begins which makes sense). i've got a baseline tune and 2 additional tunes that got me where i am now by brent at DTP and its good stuff. but i'd like to make the changes as i add to my build. i've found one decent write up so far but a little out dated. HPT forum seems to be lacking as everything is really vague unless you buy the DVD's. at the same time though it seems that a lot of guys are willing to look at logs and help out there. not to take away from your services, but do you have a guide that you go by or a recommendation of where to start (tuning 101 for noobs)? the tune repository is mostly stock tunes so its pointless to compare anything on there.

thanks

just go to the HPT forums. all the info you will ever need is there. once you soak it in you will start to understand it and problem solve on your own.

remember, if you are only looking at recent threads you will not get a complete picture. Sometimes the info you need might be 10 years old (or maybe 7 at least) and it isn't discussed anymore because it might be something basic. it is all there though.

hapisok · 07-12-2012, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Higgs Boson

just go to the HPT forums. all the info you will ever need is there. once you soak it in you will start to understand it and problem solve on your own.

remember, if you are only looking at recent threads you will not get a complete picture. Sometimes the info you need might be 10 years old (or maybe 7 at least) and it isn't discussed anymore because it might be something basic. it is all there though.

right on. yeah, digging through threads that are over 5yrs old with screen shots of tables that don't reflect the current version with "steps to follow" make it frustrating.

its like "put the square peg in the square hole" but guess what, there is no square hole. trying to figure out what is relevant and what isn't has me confused too.

i don't expect to become a novice tuner over night but for what i paid, i'd expect the site to be a bit more organized and not have to search for weeks trying to piece info together. personally, i'd rather have information that i could study for 2-3wks so i can understand how it works together from start to finish, not middle to beginning to end.

the more i search the more i learn but its slow and painful...oh well, im not the first one so guess i gotta pay my dues too.

Higgs Boson · 07-12-2012, 09:03 AM

keep in mind that hpt and the like do not necessarily know how to tune. they are code crackers. the forum teaches itself, thats why it is like that so any tutorials are from someone who is self taught and takes the time to write it up for free.

there are also books out there too to get you started. once it clicks you will open a door to a whole world of capability.

07-07-2012, 01:57 PM	#1
attymf Drives: 2017 SS Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: LI, NY Posts: 755 View My Garage	HP Tune questions I am debating an HP Tune cause I can get a deal on it but still I am wondering if it is even worth it. What will the HP tune do as far as HP/TQ, gas mileage, rev limiter, top end limiter etc. I have the LS3 (manual for those who are not smart) a CAI intake and Corsa Catback. __________________ SS, A8, Procharger, M&T's and stuff...

07-07-2012, 03:10 PM	#2
MA2010SS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Somerset MA Posts: 725 View My Garage	HP Tuners is a powerful program, if you do not have experience with tuning you could wind up getting frustrated very quickly, do alot of reading and visit the HPTuners website for info. HPT will do what ever you need it to do, there are tons of parameters you can change unlike some hand held units, just mu .02 cents __________________ 2010 Camaro SS Whipple SC, CAI Inc Intake, TSP 1 7/8" LT headers no cats, 3" magnaflow exhaust, HPT, RX Catch Can, LSR Toe Rods, LSR Trailing Arms, ALKY Control Meth, McLeod RXT Twin Disc, ZL1 fuel pump, 3.73 ZL1 Differential Kit, BTR PDS Stage 2 Cam, Tuned by SLOWHAWK Performance Bridgewater MA

07-07-2012, 03:12 PM	#3
hapisok crazier than a coconut Drives: 2010 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: virginia Posts: 1,547	i gained around 10HP & 10TQ (peak) 15HP & 25TQ (across the RPM range) with just the tune. removed the speed limiter. eliminated skip shift. removed TQ management (not to include stabili-track/traction control). got my CAI (roto-fab) and still need to retune and plan to be sitting just over 400 by then. its a better option than the canned tunes. mail order tunes are good too but you've got to be careful who your going through. but there are some very reputable tuners/vendors on here that will hook you up with a sweet ass tune via email. if you plan on future mod's, then the tuning and tweaking can be done by you if your willing to venture down that road with HP tuners. plus lots of help on the HP tuners site. you have lots of options available, it really comes down to what you have available. in my opinion...YES, its worth it. __________________

07-07-2012, 03:27 PM	#4
attymf Drives: 2017 SS Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: LI, NY Posts: 755 View My Garage	dealership is gonna tune my car and not void warranty and do it at low cost __________________ SS, A8, Procharger, M&T's and stuff...

07-07-2012, 05:25 PM	#5
MA2010SS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Somerset MA Posts: 725 View My Garage	Great dealer, not many like them around! __________________ 2010 Camaro SS Whipple SC, CAI Inc Intake, TSP 1 7/8" LT headers no cats, 3" magnaflow exhaust, HPT, RX Catch Can, LSR Toe Rods, LSR Trailing Arms, ALKY Control Meth, McLeod RXT Twin Disc, ZL1 fuel pump, 3.73 ZL1 Differential Kit, BTR PDS Stage 2 Cam, Tuned by SLOWHAWK Performance Bridgewater MA

07-07-2012, 06:04 PM	#6
Higgs Boson Perpetual Order Drives: indeed Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 1,277	as long as they know what they are doing. make sure you get the .hpt file emailed to you, then you can post it on HPT forums and see what they changed (to verify things were done as promised). If they can't provide you with the file then........

07-08-2012, 08:34 AM	#7
Tampa Tuning Account Suspended Drives: TAMPA TUNING FACEBOOK & INSTAGRAM Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Tampa, Fl Posts: 3,044	Camaro corvette tuning in Tampa Orlando St. Petersburg I only use the HP Tuner program. It does everything that's needed. I can even have HP Tuners to write a custom operating system for your vehicle. Then apply a custom tune to your custom operating system. They are the only company that will write an operating system for your car. Unless your dealership designs alot of tunes, Id be concerned. Just because they may have a good tech, does not mean they are specialized in the tuning platform. They are two very differant worlds. For those that have HP Tuners, I charge $150.00 for mail order tunes. www.TampaTuning.com Phil

07-12-2012, 03:57 AM	#11
hapisok crazier than a coconut Drives: 2010 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: virginia Posts: 1,547	sweet...thanks for the info. got the pro tuning suit myself and am trying to learn it...where to start and what to tweak (seems the MAF is where it all begins which makes sense). i've got a baseline tune and 2 additional tunes that got me where i am now by brent at DTP and its good stuff. but i'd like to make the changes as i add to my build. i've found one decent write up so far but a little out dated. HPT forum seems to be lacking as everything is really vague unless you buy the DVD's. at the same time though it seems that a lot of guys are willing to look at logs and help out there. not to take away from your services, but do you have a guide that you go by or a recommendation of where to start (tuning 101 for noobs)? the tune repository is mostly stock tunes so its pointless to compare anything on there. thanks __________________

07-12-2012, 09:03 AM	#14
Higgs Boson Perpetual Order Drives: indeed Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 1,277	keep in mind that hpt and the like do not necessarily know how to tune. they are code crackers. the forum teaches itself, thats why it is like that so any tutorials are from someone who is self taught and takes the time to write it up for free. there are also books out there too to get you started. once it clicks you will open a door to a whole world of capability.