Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
Vararam
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Engine | Drivetrain | Powertrain Technical Discussions > Camaro V6 LLT Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 01-11-2010, 10:52 PM   #1
Dynabyte
 
Dynabyte's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 2SS/RS/NPP Red Hot
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Concord, CA
Posts: 264
Flowmaster and muffler weep holes

Hey everyone - the Captain and diet's working on the brain so I figured I'd ask a question that's been bugging me. I installed a Flowmaster Axle-back system a couple of weeks ago. The factory mufflers have weep holes, and blackish water would drain out. I read here somewhere that the 3.6 LLT generates more water than other engines. The Flowmaster system does not have any holes for water to drain. Is this something I should be concerned about? Any problem with me drilling the mufflers (at the lowest point) with a 1/8" metal drill-bit? My commute is 5 miles each way so often the car doesn't warm up to the point that it evaporates typically. The last thing I want is my aftermarket exhaust causing some sort of problem with another component (even the engine) that's under warranty. Thoughts?
__________________
Dynabyte is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2010, 11:14 PM   #2
Xanthos
PWA Relapse
 
Xanthos's Avatar
 
Drives: Formerly-Stick
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 12,588
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynabyte View Post
Hey everyone - the Captain and diet's working on the brain so I figured I'd ask a question that's been bugging me. I installed a Flowmaster Axle-back system a couple of weeks ago. The factory mufflers have weep holes, and blackish water would drain out. I read here somewhere that the 3.6 LLT generates more water than other engines. The Flowmaster system does not have any holes for water to drain. Is this something I should be concerned about? Any problem with me drilling the mufflers (at the lowest point) with a 1/8" metal drill-bit? My commute is 5 miles each way so often the car doesn't warm up to the point that it evaporates typically. The last thing I want is my aftermarket exhaust causing some sort of problem with another component (even the engine) that's under warranty. Thoughts?
I honestly don't think it would be a problem. The weep holes in the V6 exhaust are because of the way the muffler is setup. This isn't the best picture ever, but it'll show why the V6 muffler needs drain holes:



Essentially the exhaust gasses enter the muffler through that pipe in the center and just fill the muffler box - this allows them to slow down considerably, acting as a resonator. However, the moisture in that exhaust gas cannot adequately vent once the car cools off - it will simply pool on the bottom of the muffler. Thus, drain holes. The flowmaster mufflers, however, do not have this large of an area that has no direct connection to the flow - the exhaust gasses should vent out, along with the moisture suspended in them, before the gases cool enough for the water to condense in significant quantities.

At least, this is the way I understand it. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
- X
__________________

2017 1LT/RS A8 Hyper Blue Metallic

Xanthos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2010, 07:54 AM   #3
01pewterz28
#TeamBeckyD
 
01pewterz28's Avatar
 
Drives: 2017 HBM 2SS Convertible A8
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Apopka, FL
Posts: 10,496
Best bet call Flowmaster and ask them they will tell you.

Sean
__________________
#TeamBeckyD
**FIFTY HBM 2SS VERT**
01pewterz28 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2010, 10:32 AM   #4
rolnslo
Rolling along...
 
rolnslo's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 2SS/RS SGM
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 4,380
Quote:
Originally Posted by 01pewterz28 View Post
Best bet call Flowmaster and ask them they will tell you.

Sean
Chances are real good that Flowmaster will tell you that you don't need them or else they would have put them in for you.

I had Flowmaster mufflers (Hushpower II) on my '56 Chevy. Shortly after moving to my current home, the entire property flooded due to severely heavy rainfall and my poor '56 was caught with flood waters in the exhaust system. I hadn't had a chance to build a garage yet so the car was outside under a carport. Anyhow, I called Flowmaster to see what needed to be done and they said to just drill a 1/8" hole in the lowest point of the mufflers, let it drain and then get the holes welded shut. Obviously, they don't see a need for permanent drain holes like the ones that are on the stock Camaro mufflers.
__________________
rolnslo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2010, 03:28 PM   #5
Dynabyte
 
Dynabyte's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 2SS/RS/NPP Red Hot
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Concord, CA
Posts: 264
Thanks for all of the input everyone - I will probably send over an email to Flowmaster to ask them about it but my concerns have certainly been alleviated. This forum rocks!
__________________
Dynabyte is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2010, 07:37 PM   #6
hb35man
 
hb35man's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro 1LT Aqua Blue Metallic
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Algona Washington
Posts: 316
Thanks for pointing that out.I boght that system as well but haven't installed them yet.
hb35man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2010, 05:27 PM   #7
faninc
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro RS in SIM
Join Date: May 2009
Location: NJ
Posts: 563
Weep holes also appear to be on SS mufflers from LS3, not just Stock V6 mufflers?

I installed a pair of SS LS3 mufflers on my V6 and noticed some black marks on the bottom of muffler, upon further review, saw one tiny weep hole on the bottom of each stock LS3 muffler- anyone else notice this on their Ls3 mufflers?

best
J
faninc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2010, 11:48 AM   #8
01pewterz28
#TeamBeckyD
 
01pewterz28's Avatar
 
Drives: 2017 HBM 2SS Convertible A8
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Apopka, FL
Posts: 10,496
Quote:
Originally Posted by faninc View Post
Weep holes also appear to be on SS mufflers from LS3, not just Stock V6 mufflers?

I installed a pair of SS LS3 mufflers on my V6 and noticed some black marks on the bottom of muffler, upon further review, saw one tiny weep hole on the bottom of each stock LS3 muffler- anyone else notice this on their Ls3 mufflers?

best
J
Had the black marks on mine I notived them when I took them off

Sean
__________________
#TeamBeckyD
**FIFTY HBM 2SS VERT**
01pewterz28 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2010, 12:49 PM   #9
Iwantone2
Voice Of The Voiceless
 
Iwantone2's Avatar
 
Drives: CGM 1SS RS
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: OC Cali
Posts: 9,617
Quote:
Originally Posted by faninc View Post
Weep holes also appear to be on SS mufflers from LS3, not just Stock V6 mufflers?

I installed a pair of SS LS3 mufflers on my V6 and noticed some black marks on the bottom of muffler, upon further review, saw one tiny weep hole on the bottom of each stock LS3 muffler- anyone else notice this on their Ls3 mufflers?

best
J
They were also on my L99 mufflers...
__________________
Iwantone2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2010, 03:14 PM   #10
faninc
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro RS in SIM
Join Date: May 2009
Location: NJ
Posts: 563
So I guess the conclusion is tiny weep hole are not just on the V6 but all Camaros.
faninc is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Flowmaster 40 Series Delta Flow mufflers on a V6 kga10734 Camaro V6 LLT Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons 32 02-11-2016 11:31 AM
Are Flowmaster exhaust available yet? quanine10 Camaro V8 LS3 / L99 Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons 115 04-11-2010 05:19 PM
Custom Flowmaster exhaust mikevrod Camaro V6 LLT Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons 40 11-13-2009 10:38 AM
Magnaflow vs. Flowmaster Kelso Camaro V8 LS3 / L99 Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons 49 09-24-2009 11:50 AM
Flowmaster 40's nukemgreg Camaro V6 LLT Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons 7 06-25-2009 09:43 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:10 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.